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re: YouTuber/Mechanic Scotty Kilmer, EVs are a Scam and the Media is lying to you.

Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:33 pm to
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He is very high on low specific output N/A engines for example. There is nothing wrong with that since they do tend to be reliable.



Anybody who cares about having a reliable, long lasting powertrain that can be serviced and repaired without highly specialized tools does too.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:34 pm to
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It’s a scam to say an ev gets a made up mpg so they pass government compliance measures.

Maybe not to the same degree, but the auto makers definitely fudge the numbers on MPG with all of these twin turbo vehicles that are made now.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9449 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:34 pm to
Scotty seems like a straight shooter from what I can tell. Clickbait titles for his videos to get hits, but I think he's a decent guy.
Posted by sqerty
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:36 pm to
I watch/like his vids and will watch this one, but have to say his arm movements are distracting as shite!
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:36 pm to
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If they are reporting the mileage per the same BTUs that are in a gallon of gasoline then I see nothing wrong with it.


Which is what they basically do. MPGe is based on 33.7kwh which is basically the BTU is a gallon of gas converted.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:38 pm to
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If you just commute a short distance to work and home, probably fine.


I use a EZ-Go around the neighborhood.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:38 pm to
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Scam? Probably not. Practical for many tasks. No.

If you just commute a short distance to work and home, probably fine.

Exactly. I bought an EV because I never drive my car more than 150 miles before returning to my garage. If I ever need to go farther I’ll use my wife’s car. Also, besides having the perfect mission profile, I have a two car garage with two 240V 50 receptacles and I don’t care that it is so expensive. If any of those things weren’t true I would not get an EV.

Another thing: the range on an EV is really a lot less than they say. You have to be more conservative about running low because you don’t have as many recharge options as ICE vehicles. And if you want to take proper care of that expensive battery you should not charge it over 80%. I would be afraid to go below 10% and I charge to 80%, so I actually only have 70% of my 290 mile range available - that’s 203 miles.
This post was edited on 2/2/24 at 4:46 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:42 pm to
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Which is what they basically do. MPGe is based on 33.7kwh which is basically the BTU is a gallon of gas converted.
Scotty mentions MPGe in this video and doesn't seem to have much problem with it, but he goes on about "compliance values" and that's his big issue in the early part of the video. I don't know how those are calculated but I also don't see them advertised or mentioned really so I'm not sure why he rails on about it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:46 pm to
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the range on an EV is really a lot less than they say. You have to be more conservative about running low because you don’t have as many recharge options as ICE vehicles.



That is one of the several points Scotty made in the video.

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And if you want to take proper care of that expensive battery you should not charge it over 80%. I would be afraid to go below 10% and I charge to 80%, so I actually only have 70% of my 290 mile range available - that’s 204 miles.


He made this point too. An EV is like a gasoline vehicle that you cannot run below a quarter of a tank and completely fill up. You can only use 11-12 middle gallons of gasoline in a 20 gallon tank.
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:50 pm to
I thought most of the video was about inherent issues with Electrical anything.
Even beyond the headline/government angle.

I don't own an EV.
But what he said makes sense about lightning recharge to 80% and not letting the battery go below 20%.
The analogy being a 20 gallon tank with only 12 gallons being functionally usable on a trip.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27528 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:50 pm to
As much as I hate the unearned smugness EV owners, I hate scotty Kilmer more.
Posted by Demshoes
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 5:17 pm to
No interest at all. I'll stick with my engine.
Posted by Flightnclouds
Member since Sep 2018
1120 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 5:18 pm to
Everybody with 1/2 a brain knew this. They can’t even make an electric golf cart that last more than 18 mo. Without issues.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 5:37 pm to
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Anybody who cares about having a reliable, long lasting powertrain that can be serviced and repaired without highly specialized tools does too.


I agree. My travel car is a Lexus ES 330 with a N/A 3.3 engine with a specific output of 68hp/L. This one has over 435k miles on it and the only engine-related repair it has had is a set of coils at about 360k.

That said the majority of people don't buy cars with any intention of putting 500k miles on them and I am not remotely interested in that for our DDs because they tend to be boring vehicles to drive. I am not interested in tearing into a BMW engine with Dual VANOS or a 911 engine with VarioCam timing and VTG turbos. That is for techs with the right tools and a lift.

Scotty is an old school guy with an old school POV, if that aligns with someone's individual wants in cars then he is a fine resource.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 5:41 pm to
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Scotty Kilmer
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:02 pm to
Only an idiot needs YouTube to tell them that
Posted by crewdepoo
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:05 pm to
Take your YouTube news to the poli board
Posted by Gifman
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:08 pm to
Again, every major industry on earth is a scam on some level.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:11 pm to
Vaxxdawg has spoken
Posted by Bourbonball5012
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:12 pm to
My Tesla model S disagrees
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