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re: Would you rather - a game of choice

Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:09 pm to
Misread.

Thought you get the money and jump ahead 25 years from present.

Regardless, I'd still do blue because I have no idea where my wife would be at 25 (met freshman year at LSU)
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:20 pm to
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Regardless, I'd still do blue because I have no idea where my wife would be at 25 (met freshman year at LSU)


Assuming you would make the same choice.

I would. I made the right choice with Mrs. TrueTiger (she probably doesn't feel that way )
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:23 pm to
I was already dating my wife at 25 so maybe I just take my millions and short the housing market in 2008 with Michael Burry and buy 50k BTC.
Posted by MCMBEANLVI
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:38 pm to
Neither
The lessons learned living life are invaluable
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:40 pm to
Easy, blue
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:03 pm to
Not trying to be a nerd but neither

I’m not risking missing out on my family with some butterfly effect thing

Plus having an extra 5m at 25 isn’t that big a deal anyway
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:29 pm to
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The butterfly effect isn't something I've really considered. Would I make different choices and now my kids don't exist?


This is the obvious rub for those of us with kids. I’m pretty sure you and I are the same age—born in ‘78—but I’m also pretty sure your kids are a little older. I had mine relatively late (30 and 35), so I’ve had less of my life with them in the world. Still, it’s not just hard to imagine them not existing, it’s hard for me to really remember life before them. It must be even harder for you since more of your life has been lived with them in it. I’m assuming we both wouldn’t do anything that the butterfly effect would risk them not existing. Not just kids, but those exact kids.

You’re lucky that you married right and are still with your wife. The harder decision would be for us divorced dads (and moms, but to a lesser extent, because they typically come out way ahead in a divorce). Would I still choose my wife to have my exact kids, knowing that we’re not right for each other and all the impending pain and suffering that I comes with divorce for everyone involved, especially the kids? Obviously, yes, but is that selfish? I think we’d all probably still choose it and lie to ourselves that we could make the marriage work knowing what we do now, but if the spouse isn’t gifted with the same knowledge that you are, is that even possible? I suppose that $50 million would make everyone more agreeable, but maybe that’s foolish. Maybe it makes it even worse.

I’ve pondered this before. Quite a bit, actually. But without the money. Would I hit reset to 25 to not make the same mistakes? Of course I would, but I’d still do whatever it took to make sure I still had my exact kids, so I’m not sure I wouldn’t wind up in a very similar situation regardless. The money would certainly help, though. At least in theory.

But this is a tough philosophical dilemma that I was not expecting to be pondering on a Saturday afternoon before LSU tees it off in the 1st game of the College World Series Finals. Damn the OP. I was just trying to casually browse a bit and kill some time before I popped my 1st top. Bastard.
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 1:33 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:39 pm to
I had a happy childhood but I am not trying to go back to grade school
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:51 pm to
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I was just trying to casually browse a bit and kill some time before I popped my 1st top. Bastard.

That's what got me thinking about it. I wouldn't trade money for the risk of not having my same wife and kids.

25 would at least get me past my 9/11 dilemma too
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 2:09 pm to
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That's what got me thinking about it. I wouldn't trade money for the risk of not having my same wife and kids.


Of course not. But my kids aren’t a-hole teenagers yet. Well, one’s a teenager, but not at the a-hole stage yet. But ask me again in 5 years and I may have a different answer.

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25 would at least get me past my 9/11 dilemma too


I’ve thought of that too. Wasn’t there a weird reason why one of the buildings wasn’t as full as normal that day? And the plane that hit the Pentagon didn’t hit its target just right? And the passengers of that other plane prevented a hit altogether. And wasn’t there another plane or something that didn’t get high-jacked that was supposed to? Or am I misremembering?

Point is, what if we were somehow able to convince the right people that it was coming (which I doubt) and were able to thwart it without winding up in a military prison as part of the conspiracy (How else would we know about it?), wouldn’t they just do it again, only this time they hit all their targets and it’s an even bigger disaster? One so big that a couple of invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan wouldn’t suffice as responses? If 10,000 people die instead of 3,000 and a plane hits the capital and takes out a U.S. Congressman or hits the White House and takes out anybody, does Saudia Arabia get pulled in? Iran? Russia? Then what? It’s a pretty delicate game of dominos that could turn into a World War pretty easily. WWI was started on less. Goddamn you, OP!!! I just wanted to relax before 1st pitch.

Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 2:14 pm to
One of my dad's golf buddies was an inveterate gambler. Just before the Lake Placid Winter Olympics, "Mr xxx, could you put this money on the USA Hockey team to win gold?"
Posted by USMCguy121
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 2:30 pm to
Red pill

It's just easier
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 2:45 pm to
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Of course not. But my kids aren’t a-hole teenagers yet. Well, one’s a teenager, but not at the a-hole stage yet. But ask me again in 5 years and I may have a different answer

15-17 seems to be peak dumbass for most kids
Posted by Shanegolang
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 3:42 pm to
Tempted to go red but 57 years old me says the blue would be the better choice.
Posted by LostTiger27
Member since Aug 2019
327 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 3:56 pm to
How much money are you going to have to invest at 10 years old? If I told my parents to buy apple stock they wouldn't know wtf I was talking about
Posted by BayouFann
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 4:03 pm to
A small % of people become millionaires. Even less do is by the age of 25. Even less make it to multi. Less make it pass 7 digits. Give me the $50m at 25 years old in 2005 and I definitely make it to a half a billion!
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 4:04 pm to
Red pill without a doubt.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 4:12 pm to
It would be my luck that I'd take the blue pill and somehow manage to mess up the investment side by giving too much money to the creator and they would take off with my money and not make that thing! Red
Posted by Richard Grayson
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 4:16 pm to
At 25, while I was married, neither of my kids were born yet and there’s no guarantee the same kids show up but atleast I still have my wife. The blue pill I lose my wife and my kids. But retain the knowledge of them. That sounds like torture. I’d probably kill myself after I tried and failed to find and marry my wife again. Especially because I’d creepily know everything about her and she’d know nothing about me. I couldn’t enjoy the courtship because I already lived it and remember it.

And even if I got over that and convinced her to marry me I’d have the memories of my children but never be able to see them again and if we do have kids they’d be some weird alternative reality kids I couldn’t accept because they’d always be a grim reminder of the children I gave up. That sounds like a black mirror episode of horror.

I don’t want either one. If I had to choose I’d take the red pill because at least I’d still have my wife and no memory of the children I sacrificed.
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 5:35 pm to
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I'm going with age 10 and the knowledge.

That would be madness. I'd be a middle aged man in a 10 year old body. I'd have no friends because I just don't want to hang out with 10 year olds. Every movie, song, current event would be fresh for everyone else but way past old hat to me.

Would you sacrifice yourself to prevent 9/11, known murders, the Obama presidency, etc.?

Honestly, I'd have money but would probably be miserable until I got back to 2023.

25 year old me and $5 mil might not live long, so I'm not sure about that either.
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