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re: Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995 Article)
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:29 am to carbola
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:29 am to carbola
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What the Internet hucksters won't tell you is tht the Internet is one big ocean of unedited data, without any pretense of completeness. Lacking editors, reviewers or critics, the Internet has become a wasteland of unfiltered data. You don't know what to ignore and what's worth reading
The article strikes me as nothing more than a journalist bemoaning the idea that with the Internet anyone can do what he does without having a journalism degree. IE people won't believe everything that comes out of the media (what he considers worth reading because it has been edited) because they have access to "unfiltered data" created by the dirty masses.
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:29 am to OysterPoBoy
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This is my favorite part about online shopping.
Me too. In brick and mortar stores salespeople are frequently bothering you when you want to be left alone and not around when you have a question. Online I think that I get better control over customer service.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:31 am to carbola
Swing and a miss....
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:54 am to carbola
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A poor substitute it is, this virtual reality where frustration is legion and where—in the holy names of Education and Progress—important aspects of human interactions are relentlessly devalued.
i'm in IT and have been on the internet since the days of GEnie and text-line BBS's in the 1980s.
my wife pretty much said that above and its opened my eyes..i try to keep my kids away from technology as much as possible now for that exact reason.
its amazing the difference its made on our family even in a few short months.
i was blind..
eta should also point out i just got remarried in january after 6 or so years of being a single dad.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 11:55 am
Posted on 1/9/14 at 12:01 pm to carbola
Clifford Stoll did write a good book "The Cuckoo's Egg" about catching a hacker in the 80s. He sure was a terrible pundit, though.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:21 pm to carbola
He had been online for 20yrs already in 1995??
Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:24 pm to biglego
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He had been online for 20yrs already in 1995??
probably..particularly if he was in education
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When Telnet was initially developed in 1969, most users of networked computers were in the computer departments of academic institutions, or at large private and government research facilities. In this environment, security was not nearly as much a concern as it became after the bandwidth explosion of the 1990s
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A precursor to the public bulletin board system was Community Memory, started in August, 1973 in Berkeley, California, using hardwired terminals located in neighborhoods.[2] Community Memory allowed the user to type messages into a terminal after inserting a coin, and offered a "pure" bulletin board experience with public messages only (no email or other features). It did offer the ability to tag messages with keywords, which the user could search on.
The first public dial-up BBS was developed by Ward Christensen and Randy Suess. According to an early interview, with the city snowed under during the Great Blizzard of 1978 in Chicago, the two began preliminary work on the Computerized Bulletin Board System, or CBBS. CBBS went online on February 16, 1978 in Chicago, Illinois.[3] CBBS, which kept a count of callers, reportedly connected 253,301 callers before it was finally retired.[citation needed]
BBS ANSI Login Screen example
The first public system in the UK was Forum 80[citation needed] which was developed on the Forum 80 software imported from the US by Frederick Brown, John Laurence and Neil Barnby, in Kingston upon Hull. This BBS ran throughout the 1980s and eventually joined the Fidonet network. The three also started AFPAS (The Association of Free Public Access Systems), which provided information to the public on BBS systems and how to connect to them.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:37 pm to CAD703X
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probably..particularly if he was in education
As I recall, he was an astronomy PhD who became a Unix sysadmin. Read the book I cited; it's an interesting tale, and it all started from him noticing an accounting error for less than $1 and then becoming a dog with a bone, which led him into an international chase.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:42 pm to carbola
I always like this article from only back in 2007 written by a long time tech writer.
Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone
Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:44 pm to Helo
John Dvorak has always been a huge troll.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:04 pm to CAD703X
Ive seem pictures or similar old timey articles about TVs, car, and every other major invention ever
With every great invention comes doubters and people who hate change, its what gives people hope for advancement
With every great invention comes doubters and people who hate change, its what gives people hope for advancement
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:10 pm to biglego
quote:The internet existed for decades before the World Wide Web was created in the 90s. We use them interchangeably now, but they are not the same thing.
He had been online for 20yrs already in 1995??
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:13 pm to carbola
Courtney Love hasn't killed the internet...yet
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:15 pm to biglego
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He had been online for 20yrs already in 1995??
He's a computer scientist. He was there at the beginning, which makes his lack of foresight even more interesting. Although he's right in that the internet has raised as many problems as it's solved. He was correct that the WWW wouldn't be a Nirvana. He was wrong as to why.
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