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re: Why is drunk driving such an epidemic in this state?

Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:34 am to
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:34 am to
Public transportation is non existent. So people drink, say frick it, then drive. I know its not an excuse, but if someone waits over 45 minutes for a cab when they can drive home in 10. Most likely they will just say eff it and drive home.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:34 am to
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Why is drunk driving such an epidemic in this state?

It's not, but MADD and newspapers like to plaster horror stories like this on the front page to make you think it is.
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:34 am to
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Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:37 am to
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I think a lot of it has to do with affordable and reliable public transportation. After a night out, I can easily use a subway or taxi to go home. When I lived in New Orleans I would have a taxi take me home. Outside of a large city, taxis and other means of public transportation or scarce or shady as hell.


See, that's exactly it, and for most places like BR they don't get it at all why there's a real need for decent and reliable public transportation, not just in this issue, but also in supporting a night life making your city an interesting place, and in supporting places like our own downtown which people in the city want the people of this city to support, but I suppose don't factor in the fact that it's removed from the rest of where people live and so there's that getting home thingy at the end of the night that people must concern themselves with and so end up usually staying at home or going o a local bar to get together with friends.

A functioning streetcar system or at least cabs and busses that are accessible would go a long way in making this more practical for people to leave home, enjoy an interesting night life downtown, and then head home without having to think about driving, or leaving their car downtown or wherever and unattended.

It's just a piss poor lack of planning, as usual with everything you see around you.


Posted by Zantrix
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:37 am to
So public transportation is the reason dipshits get drunk on the southshore and drive back to Hammond? Give me a break, I'll wager $20 that guy never once thought about calling a cab.

BTW the drunk driver in that wreck on I55 died.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 10:39 am
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:38 am to
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Posted by jose canseco
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:38 am to
Is it worse here than other states?
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:39 am to
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That's your answer! Wow. You had one paragraph blaming the drinker and 4 blaming sprawl, public transportation and no neighborhood bars. It's this idiotic thinking that's the problem.


Make drinking illegal then for everyone. That's what you are basically saying. Just dint drink, well your nit going to stop people, so maybe providing public transportation to your fricking citizens wouldn't be such a bad idea.

I live in walking distance to the bar I frequent a-hole. But if I want to go anywhere and have 2 beers with dinner I can't.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 10:42 am
Posted by Buddy Garrity
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:39 am to
you don't get it.

it's not about whose fault it is, it's about what is going to happen given the circumstances.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:39 am to
driving drunk and texting - that's scary
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:40 am to
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driving drunk and texting - that's scary


Texting and driving is actually waaaaayyyyy more dangerous than drinking and driving, but nobody wants to put that stigma on it.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:42 am to
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That's your answer! Wow. You had one paragraph blaming the drinker and 4 blaming sprawl, public transportation and no neighborhood bars. It's this idiotic thinking that's the problem.


It's because you're thinking you're going to fix human nature, and I'm telling you that you've built a city around a fricking vehicle that makes it a non functioning retarded system that makes no good sense.

Human nature says people want to go out and socialize with friends at bars and or have a drink when they eat out, but your cities aren't built for that to happen without driving everywhere clear across town with no reliable public transportation.

People will always be people and will want to socialize with other humans at bars. It's the getting home afterwards that's the problem. The retardation is in thinking this can be achieved without giving people a means of getting home without fricking driving.

Think it through a little.

Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:47 am to
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Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:47 am to
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Unreal! How about don't drink?


More unreal, how about just stay home and be a fricking hermit. Then you can wonder why humans struggle so mightily in social interaction with each other and have become so fricking weird?


You're not living in the real world, or better yet, not living life with human nature in mind, and so that's why the square peg isn't fitting in the round hole, no matter how hard you try and make it fit.



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Posted by gjackx
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:47 am to
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Texting and driving is actually waaaaayyyyy more dangerous

I swear waaaay too many people spend more time looking down, than looking forward these days. It's getting scary
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:52 am to
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What!?!? I got out with friends for dinner all the time. I don't need booze to have a good time. If I do have a drink, it's 1 or 2 tops that's it.


And if you were a 90 lb woman with low body fat, you would probably be over the legal limit.

Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:52 am to
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Hell no! I have a drink occasionally when I'm out. All I'm saying is if you can't handle your booze and obey the law, you shouldn't drink.


You are hopeless on this. They can still haul you to jail if you blow under a .08. I'm not talking about getting plastered. But tailgating and drinking is a part of the culture down here. You aren't going to change that. So maybe they should do something to provide better public transportation.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:56 am to
Culture, education levels, lighter penalties than other places, and terrible public transportation are the causes.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:57 am to
Reasons I've done it are that I have to get way the frick across town to go to a bar, then way the frick across town to get to another bar, then way the frick across town to get home. Cities and bars are just spread out. To go 2 miles, I'd have to wait an hour for a taxi and it would cost me $20. Getting a taxi after 2 is a crap shoot. I wanna have fun just like the rest of everyone does

I haven't had that much of a problem in New Orleans because it is easy to get around. I'm not gonna be all high and mighty, sure I've done it here on occasion. It is just way easier not to
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