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re: Who would win between Rome and Ancient China?
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:15 pm to ManBearTiger
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:15 pm to ManBearTiger
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Mongol Empire:
The mongols weren't Chinese. The Chinese built a big arse wall to protect themselves from the Mongols. Quit changing the subject.
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:15 pm to RyseofRome
Rome for sure. China was divided as hell. No way they would have prevailed. I'd put several ancient empires over the Chinese.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:16 pm to bencoleman
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and the Confederate soldier of the American war between the states.
Are you kidding? The Confederate soldiers lost due the fact they lacked the work ethic and strength of the German and Irish Midwesterners of the Union who never relied on slaves to do their alpha labor for them.
The Confederacy's laziness and sucking up to the elite aristocrats' interests made them less productive weaker than their Union counterparts.
Sorry, but there's a reason the North was victorious.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:17 pm to jonboy
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A truly useless tool of warfare. Ask Hannibal how the war elephants worked worked out for him.
Just coming here to post this.
Scipio Africanus staaaacked.
Hannibal Barca Fuuuuuuuucked.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:21 pm to NoNameNeeded
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Are you kidding? The Confederate soldiers lost due the fact they lacked the work ethic and strength of the German and Irish Midwesterners of the Union who never relied on slaves to do their alpha labor for them.
The Confederacy's laziness and sucking up to the elite aristocrats' interests made them less productive weaker than their Union counterparts.
Sorry, but there's a reason the North was victorious.
His comment was pretty ludicrous, but yours was just as crazy. The reason the North won was industry and many more people. Pretty simple.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:22 pm to NoNameNeeded
Jesus who the frick are you? Quite the little Hitler aren't you?
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:22 pm to RyseofRome
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only surpassed by Persia , Greece, India, or mayans
Maybe it's time to stop watching the history channel and read some good books.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:24 pm to Ace Midnight
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Maybe it's time to stop watching the history channel and read some good books.
The first thing that came to mind was that someone has been playing a lot of Age of Empires or Civ when I opened the thread.
This post was edited on 3/29/14 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:24 pm to NoNameNeeded
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Sorry, but there's a reason the North was victorious.
Yeah - they were outnumbered 4 to 1, had sparse railroads and insufficient heavy industry to fight a country as strong as the Union - but soldier-for-soldier, particularly leaders, the South had a qualitative advantage until the end of the war.
(And wrong thread, brah.)
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:25 pm to Ace Midnight
India , Persia, and Greece had strong armies
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:31 pm to Ironbat31
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Greece
Rarely fought unified, and were only, really "together" as an empire under Philip and Alexander.
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Persia
Couldn't handle the Western way of war - they were so impressed with Greek Hoplites, they began using them as mercenaries - and, of course, Alexander crushed them.
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India
I guess they would have been formidable, but once Rome got rolling they took out lots of strong players - and smartly - one at a time. They only collapsed when they ran out of room to expand (as many great empires do).
The Mongols were legit, though.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:33 pm to Ace Midnight
God damn mercenaries. A shifty bunch for sure.
Mongols ftw.
Mongols ftw.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:34 pm to LuckySo-n-So
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LuckySo-n-So
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Just coming here to post this.
Scipio Africanus staaaacked.
Hannibal Barca Fuuuuuuuucked.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:37 pm to Phat Phil
Japanese are complete opposite of the Chinese. One of main Japanese cultural concept is "Iidoko Dori" which means regardless of their origins, accept and digest anything good and produce them as Japanese.
During the Meiji Restoration era(1868-1912), the Japanese carried out modernization by deliberately studying and adapting Western political, military, technological, economic, and social forms. They decided to completely ditch the archaic Chinese system. As a result Japan became a military power but even the Japanese couldn't beat the West. Chinese have no chance.
During the Meiji Restoration era(1868-1912), the Japanese carried out modernization by deliberately studying and adapting Western political, military, technological, economic, and social forms. They decided to completely ditch the archaic Chinese system. As a result Japan became a military power but even the Japanese couldn't beat the West. Chinese have no chance.
This post was edited on 3/29/14 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:42 pm to Bushmaster
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God damn mercenaries. A shifty bunch for sure.
On a related note - Alexander himself said, "An army of lambs, led by a lion, is better than an army of lions, led by a lamb."
Rome had consistently better leadership, particularly in the Republic, and even through the 5 "good" emperors.
However, Rome declined when they began to rely on German "mercenaries" - so that, there was a period of time at the end of pacification of the German tribes that you had whole armies of Germans - on both sides - some in skins, others in the lorica segmentata, with the Romans represented by the leadership in the legions, but not in the ranks.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:43 pm to Peazey
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His comment was pretty ludicrous,
I am not responding to the retard. But you are flat wrong, What makes my comment ludicrous? They consistently whipped the Yankees with less people, no fricking shoes, very little food, going into battle often times with as little as five rounds of ammunition, did I mention that their daily ration was about a third of what the union soldiers got? So can you please explain how my statement was Ludicrous.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:51 pm to bencoleman
General Tso FTW
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:00 pm to bencoleman
The south had better military leadership sure. That's what allowed them to do what you just said. But it's a southern fantasy that men in general were just better down here. You get any large enough group of people together and the general proportions of cowards and brave men are going to be about the same.
ETA: Sorry for lumping you in with that guy. You just happen to be talking about a brand of regionalism that I just don't buy into.
ETA: Sorry for lumping you in with that guy. You just happen to be talking about a brand of regionalism that I just don't buy into.
This post was edited on 3/29/14 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:08 pm to Peazey
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The south had better military leadership sure. That's what allowed them to do what you just said. But it's a southern fantasy that men in general were just better down here
No one is saying that the men were just better. It was motivation, determination, and backs against the wall. They proved time and time again on the battlefield.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:28 pm to bencoleman
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No one is saying that the men were just better. It was motivation, determination, and backs against the wall. They proved time and time again on the battlefield.
Seriously, not wanting to sound like a troll at all here, but why is it that whites from the Southeastern USA are hands down the most pathetic whites on the planet in just about every category and statistic?
I mean, it's well known throughout the Western world that the white people of the American South have the worst inferiority complex of all others on this planet. Native Americans on reservations often make the same excuses for defeat as that of southern whites.
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