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re: Who here has a problem with pronouns?
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:55 am to Tiger Ryno
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:55 am to Tiger Ryno
All I know is this:
If I address someone in my normal fashion, using the normal, logical pronouns I grew up with and they started to correct me with "My preferred pronouns are They/Them" then I'm going to laugh and walk away ending the conversation.
I can't, and won't deal with these idiots. I don't reside in La-La Land where they've obviously set up camp.
If I address someone in my normal fashion, using the normal, logical pronouns I grew up with and they started to correct me with "My preferred pronouns are They/Them" then I'm going to laugh and walk away ending the conversation.
I can't, and won't deal with these idiots. I don't reside in La-La Land where they've obviously set up camp.
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Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:06 am to Tiger Ryno
I'm a BIG fan of pronouns.
They're the perfect early warning to take my business elsewhere.
They're the perfect early warning to take my business elsewhere.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:20 am to Tiger Ryno
I must confess.
I was at Lowes and said to a uniformed person stooping down, "Excuse me sir..." when she stood up and turned around and I saw her boobs, I realized my mistake.
But generally speaking, if they can get away with it, more power to them. If they can't, I reserve the right to point and laugh.
I was at Lowes and said to a uniformed person stooping down, "Excuse me sir..." when she stood up and turned around and I saw her boobs, I realized my mistake.
But generally speaking, if they can get away with it, more power to them. If they can't, I reserve the right to point and laugh.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:52 am to Lithium
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Back when I was at Tulane I got an email saying I hadn't given them my pronouns
Got an email from my Drs. office about a year ago asking me to update my information and confirm my upcoming appointment.
I first confirmed the appointment and started filling out the form and about the 2nd page was asked to let them know what my preferred pronouns were.
That was it. I clicked delete and sent it to the trash bin. I don't buy into that stupidity and I never got another email from them.
The day of the visit I wasn't asked that stupid question again.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:05 am to Tiger Ryno
I'll start addressing individuals with plural pronouns as soon as they start addressing me by my chosen title: "shinerfan the hung, Lord of Golf and Duke of the Barley". "Quisach Haderach" is also acceptable in some settings.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:17 am to shinerfan
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I'll start addressing individuals with plural pronouns
If the second-person personal pronoun can be considered either singular or plural (you), why can't the third-person personal pronoun be considered singular or plural (they)?
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:29 am to Tiger Ryno
The entire idea of these pronouns is completely INSANE.
People who freak out when a stranger doesn't address them by some "preferred pronoun" are TOTALLY INSANE.
They professional counseling.
People who freak out when a stranger doesn't address them by some "preferred pronoun" are TOTALLY INSANE.
They professional counseling.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:30 am to Tiger Ryno
None.
I use correct grammar and frick your feelings.
I use correct grammar and frick your feelings.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:41 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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If the second-person personal pronoun can be considered either singular or plural (you), why can't the third-person personal pronoun be considered singular or plural (they)?
To my knowledge, this is the stupidest comment in the history of the internet.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:45 am to fr33manator
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They or them is only correct if the person has a mouse in a pocket
I had a Brother who taught Religion class that used that line...
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:45 am to shinerfan
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To my knowledge, this is the stupidest comment in the history of the internet.
Care to explain?
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:49 am to fr33manator
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But once it becomes known it makes zero linguistic sense to use it, especially when it flies in the face of subject verb agreement.
So, it's okay for "you" to be singular or plural, but it's NOT okay for "they" to be singular or plural.
Why not?
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:52 am to WildTchoupitoulas
Because language is a pretty important building block of civilization and allowing each person to make up their own rules and meanings means that there are no rules or meanings. (I tried to type slowly, were you able to follow that?)
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:52 am to Tiger Ryno
The only time I interact with questionable pronoun people is when they are serving me coffee.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:01 pm to shinerfan
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Because language is a pretty important building block of civilization and allowing each person to make up their own rules and meanings means that there are no rules or meanings.
Languages change over time.
If the choice is between using xe/xem or ze/zim, or simply going with constructions for which there is already a precedent, such as "you/you" for second person pronouns, I'd rather go with simply recognizing third person pronouns just like we already do with second person pronouns rather than introducing made up words such as xe/xem or ze/zim.
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I tried to type slowly, were you able to follow that?
But then I don't get so angry over it. I'm not sure why you're so invested, except for perhaps the possibility that it all strikes a bit too close to home for you, personally.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:04 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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So, it's okay for "you" to be singular or plural, but it's NOT okay for "they" to be singular or plural. Why not?
Context.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:30 pm to fr33manator
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Context
That's a non sequitur.
The context is second-person vs third-person, and singular vs plural pronouns. That we may use the same word for second-person singular or plural would seem to suggest it wouldn't be such a stretch to assign the same construction to the third-person that we do to the second.
It beats the hell out of coming up with new words such as xe/xem.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:32 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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It beats the hell out of coming up with new words such as xe/xem.
Smart people don't do this either. "He", "she", "it". All bases covered.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:35 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Who here has a problem with pronouns?
mandatory pronouns are annoying AF.
why the hell is it possible to get in trouble for calling a guy "He"
however I don't really give a shite if someone chooses to go by a pronoun, just the "gotcha" part is stupid.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:42 pm to shinerfan
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Smart people don't do this either.
And yet you seem to find that more acceptable than just using "they".
But then, I must be one of the smart people since this has never been an issue for me IRL. It's only existed as an internet discussion.
Except that in the vernacular, I use "they" to refer to almost anything. "Hey, they got any more beers in the cooler?" could even be referring back to myself.
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