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re: What it feels like to lose $60 billion

Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:21 am to
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:21 am to
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What it feels like to lose $60 billion

I have no doubts that this has been said, but he didn't lose 60 billion, you dolt.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:29 am to
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Posted by Broke on 9/8 at 10:56 am to TClayboy99
You people are such idiots. You would nit pick the Pope's Sunday prayer if you thought you were right.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:31 am to
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You would nit pick the Pope's Sunday prayer if you thought you were right.
I thought the Pope totally messed up on the "full of grace" part......
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:32 am to
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Did he lose it if he never actually had it?
opportunity cost bro
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:32 am to
It's not nit picky. You're title is wrong.

If you said "lose out on $60 billion" it would be right.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 11:33 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:34 am to
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You people are such idiots. You would nit pick the Pope's Sunday prayer if you thought you were right.

Now he's throwing in horrible analogies too?

People should nitpick (his word, not mine because it's not the correct word) this thread because the title of it is 100% inaccurate.
Posted by Broke
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:35 am to
He had a 10% stake. Now he doesn't. And now that stake is worth 60 Billion. So did he actually have it? Or did he not have it?

I really just want to watch people squabble over the thread title now.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:38 am to
He never had the $60 billion. He lost out on the chance to have that money, but he never had the money to lose.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:39 am to
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He had a 10% stake. Now he doesn't. And now that stake is worth 60 Billion. So did he actually have it? Or did he not have it?

Of course he had it. Almost 40 years ago. And he sold it (I'm assuming for a huge profit at the time).

Missing out on money =/= losing it.
Losing a chance to make money =/= losing money either.

You're smarter than this...you're in finance for chrissakes.

ETA: I'd bet that if he did FMV calculations back then, he came out way ahead and made a great business decision.

This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 11:41 am
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:40 am to
If the "it" refers to the money, he absolutely did not have it.
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:41 am to
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He never had the $60 billion. He lost out on the chance to have that money, but he never had the money to lose.


If Microsoft shares decline 50% you, without a doubt, will hear the media saying Gates lost $100 billion. But did he really lose? Shares are the same
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:41 am to
No squabbling, just an inaccurate title
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:41 am to
This is broke:



Posted by 12
Redneck part of Florida
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:41 am to
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Wayne said he had no regrets


Someone is completely full of shite.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:42 am to
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You're smarter than this...you're in finance for chrissakes


I can't change the title now. These people are worked up. You included
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:42 am to
his 10% stake was never worth 60 billion, therefore he never lost 60 billion dollars
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:43 am to
Well that's not really similar at all. Gates still owns the shares. This apple guy doesn't.
Posted by TheIndulger
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:43 am to
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If Microsoft shares decline 50% you, without a doubt, will hear the media saying Gates lost $100 billion. But did he really lose? Shares are the same


His net worth decreased, yes
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:43 am to
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If Microsoft shares decline 50% you, without a doubt, will hear the media saying Gates lost $100 billion. But did he really lose? Shares are the same

Bill Gates owns Microsoft (stock). So if that declines, then his wealth declines.

This dude sold off his 10% 40 years ago. You can't look back now and say he lost $60B. He lost out on a(n unknown) chance at $60B, sure...but that's not the same thing.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:44 am to
Remind me to ignore his financial advice in the future
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