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re: What is a good income to raise kids on?

Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:30 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:30 am to
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How much debt do you currently have?


Asking me?

About 40k in professional school loans. Her a little less. Both being paid off fairly quickly. Also separate housing. So we're probably talking about 2000 a month there that would be saved later in life. I'm guessing kids can eat that up quickly.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:31 am to
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Some of you people are so out of touch with reality. It's mind blowing.



The thread's about what would be ideal.

My wife and I are raising a kid on $70k/year right now. It will go up soon, but if it didn't, we'd be fine.

But "fine" isn't "ideal." My son will have to get a scholarship. Our vacations will be hiking trips to the mountains and most likely sleeping in a tent. We'll go to the beach once a year. A big Disney trip? Would take a few years to save.

Not to mention we don't have cushion if something bad happens like a car breaks down or we get mold under the carpet or some other crazy shite.

So if you want a nice house with extra rooms, two reliable cars you can take care of, spacious backyard, college fund, nice vacations, and all the other extra costs that come with having kids?

You're going to want $150k+.
Posted by theBeard
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:32 am to
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Pediatricians


dont make shite.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19429 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:32 am to
First

quote:

I highly doubt all you guys make 150,000! Are you all doctors?


For a typical Dr's salary you need to take 150,000 x 3


Second, my version of comfortable is greater than your version of comfortable. So to answer your question $1M/year
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:32 am to
Someone else's
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:35 am to
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In my travels, Ive noticed Asian, Black, and Hispanic families are very, very frugal


Friend of mine who makes over 300K a year goes shopping with a list and calculator, drives older vehicles but splurges on his house, and travel. He's a cheap bastard on everything else though.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:36 am to
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I'm not out of touch with reality, don't be stupid. I said I'd be shooting for, not "everyone who does it successfully has 200k."

But if you want to live what most of us consider upper-middle class lifestyles, and do so responsibly with children, you're not doing it on 50k.



Definitely no middle ground between 50k and 200k.
Posted by Peazey
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:36 am to
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What is a good income to raise kids on?


quote:

The thread's about what would be ideal.


No, it isn't.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:36 am to
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Friend of mine who makes over 300K a year goes shopping with a list and calculator, drives older vehicles but splurges on his house, and travel. He's a cheap bastard on everything else though.


My father-in-law who retired with millions and no debt still puts allotted amounts of cash into envelopes at the beginning of each month.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:36 am to
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No, it isn't


frick you. Yes it is.
Posted by Ironbat31
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:39 am to
then how do single mother income families survive? Of of the black guys in our dorm, his mom is a social worker. he has 2 sisters...
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:40 am to
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Definitely no middle ground between 50k and 200k.


Ok, be stupid. I'm not sure how you get "no middle ground between 50 and 200" from a guy saying "I'd shoot for 200k" and "you're not living an upper-middle class lifestyle with kids on 50k."

You can set your own minimum amount, you're being petulant.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35603 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:41 am to
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I highly doubt all you guys make 150,000! Are you all doctors?


I have several friends that are doctors and they make way more than $150k. More like $400-500k and up.

But ObamaCare may change that although that is a topic for another discussion.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29419 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:41 am to
#1: Whatever figure you have in your head, double it.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18465 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:41 am to
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then how do single mother income families survive? Of of the black guys in our dorm, his mom is a social worker. he has 2 sisters...



You asked about a good income to live a comfortable lifestyle. You didn't mention survival in the OP.

It's easy to survive on just about any income in this country especially with the kind of help you can get from the government if you need it.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79322 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:42 am to
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then how do single mother income families survive? Of of the black guys in our dorm, his mom is a social worker. he has 2 sisters...


Sacrifice, public assistance, debt, maybe all of the above.

Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:43 am to
Just take your current income and add $25,000 and that is what you should make in order to raise a child and not change anything you do now. The added cost will go up as they get older, but in theory so should your income.

I feel like if you can comfortably care for yourself now, you could make it work just fine with a kid. Things will change, and you will not spend as much on things like going out, eating out, random spontaneous purchases for yourself (hopefully), and that money will go to providing for your child.

Unless you plan on treating your child like an American Girl Doll with their clothing, or making sure they have every toy that hits the market, you should be ok assuming the above variables.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261538 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:44 am to
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then how do single mother income families survive? Of of the black guys in our dorm, his mom is a social worker. he has 2 sisters...



If you make under 50K with two kids, you probably get some subsidies.

You can raise two children on 50k a year, but not gonna have much discretionary income. Half the households in the US don't make 55k
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:44 am to
Good does not mean ideal. You're just using that to justify your ridiculous, superior position. In an ideal world no one would ever have to work. No one would ever starve. There would be no crime. Oh wait. None of that is possible. What's the point in talking about ideal, again? And frick you.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:45 am to
This is your exact quote:

quote:

I don't know how people do it for 50k.

For 2 children I'd be shooting for 200k, honestly.


Where do you live? If you're in South LA, you don't need anywhere near 200k to live a comfortable lifestyle as asked in the OP. If you live somewhere more expensive, disregard my opinion.
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