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re: What fascinates you concerning WW2?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:58 pm to theGarnetWay
Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:58 pm to theGarnetWay
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We did not. If I'm not mistaken, Woodrow Wilson actually wanted the British and the French to give the Germans a (relatively) light punishment. But the Europeans weren't having it.
We, meaning all of the countries that signed it, obviously.
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:39 pm to theGarnetWay
I believe we should have rearmed them and taken Russia.
Would have been cheaper in the long run.
Would have been cheaper in the long run.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:44 pm to Napoleon
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The ultra-nationalism. Limiting critical media, creating cults of personality. The things you need to watch out for to make sure never happen again.
Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia all say "Hi"
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:45 pm to X123F45
It's amazing how German science survived in the post-war weapons based on German designs and theories.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:00 pm to jchamil
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I've never heard anyone, historian or otherwise, refer to Hitler as a loser wannabe until this thread.
Rick Steves: "Hitler's Eagle's Nest at Berchtesgaden" - describes Hitler as a "wannabe tyrant"
Gavriel Rosenfeld: "Hi Hitler" - describes Hitler as a "wannabe artist"
An article from "Crime Magazine" issued May 30, 2013 - describes Hitler as a "pathetic loser" Author: Siobhan Patricia Mulcay
An article from "Hive Magazine" issued Feb 15, 1999 - describes Hitler as a "young resentful loser" Author: Christopher Hitchens
...but for further reading on the subject pick up any good English Grammar book and read under the subject heading: Aggregate Character Descriptions.
But you can rest assured that I will never slander Adolf Hitler's name again by describing him as a pathetic loser wannabe again.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:05 pm to X123F45
How the 'great powers' decided how post-war Europe was going to look.
For example, allowing Franco's regime to survive in Spain.
For example, allowing Franco's regime to survive in Spain.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:07 pm to jrodLSUke
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Japan attached the US. WTF were they thinking? WTH was thier endgame?
To control the entire Pacific rim. To do it they needed mineral deposits and oil supplies which they did not have in Japan. In order to keep control they had to bluff the US with a first strike in order to actually keep them OUT of the war in the Pacific.
Didn't work and four years later we turned Hiroshima and Nagasaki into real-life Big Green Eggs.
Lesson learned.
That said, I was always horrified by the atrocities that the Nazi's (not Germans) perpetrated on the Jews as well as those Japan was guilty of towards prisoners both military and civilian alike.
If you haven't read "Unbroken", I highly recommend it.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:08 pm to theGarnetWay
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We did not. If I'm not mistaken, Woodrow Wilson actually wanted the British and the French to give the Germans a (relatively) light punishment. But the Europeans weren't having it.
Wilson was instrumental in carving up the Austro-Hungarian Empire, against the rest of the Allies wishes at first.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:10 pm to X123F45
D Day. We've spent some time in Normandy touring the beaches and when you see it in person, you really start to understand the odds against the Allied Forces on D Day. It's amazing.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:14 pm to dmjones
WTF were the German people thinking
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:18 pm to AUTimbo
LINKhttps://www.eutimes.net/2010/01/why-germany-really-lost-world-war-ii/I was just reading this yesterday. Interesting viewpoint, albeit from a weird source.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:19 pm to X123F45
I'm most fascinated with the absolute dead and destruction of the fighting in the pacific. Amazed at how dedicated the average Japanese soldier to death above anything else.
I'm also amazed how so many Japanese soldier were bypassed and then totally screwed by being stranded.
I'm also amazed how so many Japanese soldier were bypassed and then totally screwed by being stranded.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:41 pm to Tigeralum2008
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Biplanes sinking battleships
Had to look this one up, the Taranto raid. Still, sinking Italian battleships only deserves partial credit.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:43 pm to LongueCarabine
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Lately what really fascinates me about WWII is the scale of the war between Germany and Russia. These were clashes of armies of millions of men all across a 1500 mile front.
Truly epic when compared to the scale of the rest of the war in Europe.
Eastern front by itself was the largest and deadliest conflict in human history
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:04 pm to TN Bhoy
The Austro Hungarian Empire was a mess anyway.
Anyone ever read the book A Mad Catastrophe? It goes into the fall on the AHE in great detail and it still flumoxed the hell out of me on who was in charge of what.
Anyone ever read the book A Mad Catastrophe? It goes into the fall on the AHE in great detail and it still flumoxed the hell out of me on who was in charge of what.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:06 pm to CaptN
Nice article. Thx
The part about the oil depot in Hawaii is terrifying. Japanese in peral Harbor would have been a decisive advantage for them.
The part about the oil depot in Hawaii is terrifying. Japanese in peral Harbor would have been a decisive advantage for them.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:07 pm to foshizzle
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Had to look this one up, the Taranto raid. Still, sinking Italian battleships only deserves partial credit.
British biplanes are what disabled the Bismarck, the prize battleship of the Germans.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:14 pm to theGarnetWay
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British biplanes are what disabled the Bismarck, the prize battleship of the Germans.
Speaking of the Bismarck, I'm amazed at what a folly the Nazi H class Battleships were. Utterly useless waste. The term Pink Elephants comes to mind.
Edit: I should have said Bismarck Class not H class. I was thinking the Bismarck and Tirpitz were the smaller step wise progression of the H- Class. They are actually a lower sized class.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:14 pm to X123F45
The 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th and 12th SS Panzer Divisions. I have read every word printed about these units and their battles, Ive had some minor accounts translated from Russian and German. Its not healthy.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:16 pm to Oyster
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Speaking of the Bismarck, I'm amazed at what a folly the Nazi H class Battleships were
Were these the ones that were so big that they could only dry dock in one port in France?
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