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re: Welded Wire Mesh in Driveway - Yay or Nay?

Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:01 pm to
Posted by jose canseco
Houston via Houma via BR via NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:01 pm to
I've poured hundreds of driveways. My suggestion would be for fiber mesh. If set correctly, WWM will help strengthen the slab but does very little for cracking. Control joints are utilized to control the cracking. Rebar is overkill.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:07 pm to
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Posted by jbgleasonDo I hear 12"? Why stop at 8? Reinforcements and all are nice but there is no substitute for depth






Please don't listen to clowns, four inches is fine
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:12 pm to
Mesh is not used to strengthen the driveway nor will it stop it from cracking. The sole purpose it serves is to keep the concrete slab intact after cracking occurs. If installed correctly with properly placed joints you won't need to worry about future repairs.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:14 pm to
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Please don't listen to clowns, four inches is fine


if you have good dirt underneath then yes, you are correct. The problem with hiring someone to do it is that 4" turns into 3ish.

In my experience, firbermesh in the concrete only helps with shrinkage cracks/hairline cracks. Downside is that your driveway will be hairy/fuzzy forever.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:28 pm to
Not much point putting rebar in a 4" slab, especially if it is just sitting on the ground with concrete poured around it. If you must, put some wood blocks underneath the rebar or something

Use the WWF, but know future cracking will be controlled by properly spaced expansion joints

A little water never hurts, and don't overfinish the surface
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:46 pm to
Yeah I gotcha. Any question posted in the OT should expect the obligatory tomfoolery
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29377 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:50 pm to
You don't need rebar in a driveway. I highly recommend wwm. It's so cheap and will only benefit the durability of the slab. Do it. Money well spent.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 7:51 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:57 pm to
I love all the engineers in this thread
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:05 pm to
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I love all the engineers in this thread



I'm not an engineer but I do own a concrete company that specializes in various forms of concrete jobs. I have mainly specialized in sidewalk jobs, curb and gutter concrete boxes of late.

Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65608 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:12 pm to
Proper panel geometry?
Good sub base?
Consistent depth throughout?
Using the right concrete mix?

Try to find someone experienced to be there with you when it comes time to order, receive and place the concrete.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:52 pm to
No to hijack but how long does it take for a partial driveway to dry? 6 feet by 7 feet maybe.
Posted by Genius_Mofo
Member since Jul 2014
181 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:58 pm to
Mix in one bottle of light Karo syrup per yard of mud. It'll help with the cracking over time.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:59 pm to
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Mix in one bottle of light Karo syrup per yard of mud. It'll help with the cracking over time.

It'll make the eventual removal of the concrete more easily accomplished.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:01 pm to
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No to hijack but how long does it take for a partial driveway to dry? 6 feet by 7 feet maybe.



depends on weather, temperature, thickness, mix and if you put any admixtures in it.

If I want something to dry fast, I usually will order a 4000 mix. Typically has more cement in it than 3000 and will dry a good bit faster. A 6" thick driveway poured with regular 4000 without any kind of high early in it with average temps above 80, I would put a car on it in a couple days and be fine and I usually air on the safe side since I have to sell the stuff. Realistically, same scenario could put a regular car or truck on it after about 24 hours and be fine but longer is better.
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