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re: Welded Wire Mesh in Driveway - Yay or Nay?
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:01 pm to BeerMoney
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:01 pm to BeerMoney
I've poured hundreds of driveways. My suggestion would be for fiber mesh. If set correctly, WWM will help strengthen the slab but does very little for cracking. Control joints are utilized to control the cracking. Rebar is overkill.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:07 pm to jbgleason
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Posted by jbgleasonDo I hear 12"? Why stop at 8? Reinforcements and all are nice but there is no substitute for depth
Please don't listen to clowns, four inches is fine
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:12 pm to BeerMoney
Mesh is not used to strengthen the driveway nor will it stop it from cracking. The sole purpose it serves is to keep the concrete slab intact after cracking occurs. If installed correctly with properly placed joints you won't need to worry about future repairs.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:14 pm to bencoleman
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Please don't listen to clowns, four inches is fine
if you have good dirt underneath then yes, you are correct. The problem with hiring someone to do it is that 4" turns into 3ish.
In my experience, firbermesh in the concrete only helps with shrinkage cracks/hairline cracks. Downside is that your driveway will be hairy/fuzzy forever.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:28 pm to BeerMoney
Not much point putting rebar in a 4" slab, especially if it is just sitting on the ground with concrete poured around it. If you must, put some wood blocks underneath the rebar or something
Use the WWF, but know future cracking will be controlled by properly spaced expansion joints
A little water never hurts, and don't overfinish the surface
Use the WWF, but know future cracking will be controlled by properly spaced expansion joints
A little water never hurts, and don't overfinish the surface
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:46 pm to bencoleman
Yeah I gotcha. Any question posted in the OT should expect the obligatory tomfoolery
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:50 pm to BeerMoney
You don't need rebar in a driveway. I highly recommend wwm. It's so cheap and will only benefit the durability of the slab. Do it. Money well spent.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:57 pm to bencoleman
I love all the engineers in this thread
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:05 pm to CarRamrod
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I love all the engineers in this thread
I'm not an engineer but I do own a concrete company that specializes in various forms of concrete jobs. I have mainly specialized in sidewalk jobs, curb and gutter concrete boxes of late.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:12 pm to BeerMoney
Proper panel geometry?
Good sub base?
Consistent depth throughout?
Using the right concrete mix?
Try to find someone experienced to be there with you when it comes time to order, receive and place the concrete.
Good sub base?
Consistent depth throughout?
Using the right concrete mix?
Try to find someone experienced to be there with you when it comes time to order, receive and place the concrete.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:52 pm to BeerMoney
No to hijack but how long does it take for a partial driveway to dry? 6 feet by 7 feet maybe.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:58 pm to BeerMoney
Mix in one bottle of light Karo syrup per yard of mud. It'll help with the cracking over time.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:59 pm to Genius_Mofo
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Mix in one bottle of light Karo syrup per yard of mud. It'll help with the cracking over time.
It'll make the eventual removal of the concrete more easily accomplished.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:01 pm to Weaver
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No to hijack but how long does it take for a partial driveway to dry? 6 feet by 7 feet maybe.
depends on weather, temperature, thickness, mix and if you put any admixtures in it.
If I want something to dry fast, I usually will order a 4000 mix. Typically has more cement in it than 3000 and will dry a good bit faster. A 6" thick driveway poured with regular 4000 without any kind of high early in it with average temps above 80, I would put a car on it in a couple days and be fine and I usually air on the safe side since I have to sell the stuff. Realistically, same scenario could put a regular car or truck on it after about 24 hours and be fine but longer is better.
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