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re: VW Chattanooga Workers Expand Mexican Economic Growth

Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:40 am to
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:40 am to
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What was the last autoworker strike settled on? Like netted the worker less than $100/WK gross which probably cost the worker money by barely moving them into the next higher tax bracket.


The fact this has so many upvotes makes me sad. There are no real phase outs at 100k gross, and tax brackets don't work like that.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7004 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:45 am to
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The fact this has so many upvotes makes me sad. There are no real phase outs at 100k gross, and tax brackets don't work like that.


People are truly clueless. I hear blue collar tradesmen all the time saying they limit the amount of overtime they will work because they lose money due to taxes. Folks simply have no idea how progressive taxation works. They also can't tell you how much they paid in taxes. They will usually tell you how much of a refund they got though....which tells you all you need to know about their financial wisdom...loaning the IRS money over the course of the year without interest is an idiotic undertaking but almost all taxpayers do it....
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10987 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:40 am to
Hey AugustaDawg, is the Chattanooga plant the only one without a CBA?
Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
5582 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:50 am to
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AwgustaDawg


How long have you've been the union rep?
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
4949 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:58 am to
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Like netted the worker less than $100/WK gross which probably cost the worker money by barely moving them into the next higher tax bracket.


Please tell me that you konw only the $$$ in the higher tax bracket is taxed at the higher rate? If the rate goes up at $70,001+ only everything above the $70K is taxed at higher rate.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12934 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:39 pm to
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If it is the only plant, they can do so, even if the closing is driven by anti-union animus.


Chattanooga is the only US VW plant. The last U.S. VW plant was in Pennsylvania and was UAW. It closed in the 80s.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:45 pm to
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Chattanooga is VW’s only plant in the US.
Misspelled "was".
Posted by MrQuibehdoh
Member since Oct 2019
130 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:17 pm to
It would be such an interesting study to see how many of the people trashing the workers of Chattanooga VW in this thread are business owners vs how many are just middle management types in South Louisiana that have had absolutely no relations with union workers or reps in the last 30 years.

This place is the pinnacle of far right wing echo chamber in residence.

The hate for black people, gays, lesbians, any minorities, etc. is truly astounding.

But I bet your bottom dollar they all go to church on Sunday, sing Kumbaya and listen to their congregation leader talk about how they should love their fellow man.

And then proceed to add “unless they’re different from me and my fat wife, in any way,” to the message in their heads.
Posted by soccerfüt
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65680 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:26 pm to
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This place is the pinnacle of far right wing echo chamber in residence.
Nuh-uh!

Right guys?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14488 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:28 pm to
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It would be such an interesting study to see how many of the people trashing the workers of Chattanooga VW in this thread are business owners vs how many are just middle management types in South Louisiana that have had absolutely no relations with union workers or reps in the last 30 years.

This place is the pinnacle of far right wing echo chamber in residence.

The hate for black people, gays, lesbians, any minorities, etc. is truly astounding.

But I bet your bottom dollar they all go to church on Sunday, sing Kumbaya and listen to their congregation leader talk about how they should love their fellow man.

And then proceed to add “unless they’re different from me and my fat wife, in any way,” to the message in their heads.


I read this post with a lisp.
Posted by MrQuibehdoh
Member since Oct 2019
130 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:31 pm to
Ah. You hate people with lisps too? I guess it technically a minority, so it fits your MO
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4048 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

VW Chattanooga Workers Expand Mexican Economic Growth


I guess one day we will have only Toyota and Honda remaining.

These people are fools.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68226 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:42 pm to
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Corporations have obviously proven their benevolence and concern for the well-being of workers over time.
Tens of millions have worked for corporations and created a nice life and retirement for themselves without the need for a union.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68226 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:57 pm to
You keep repeating this...
quote:

 VW prefers having a CBA with its employees...


But when the UAW was defeated in 2019 at that VW plant the union clown said the following...

quote:

“The company ran a brutal campaign of fear and misinformation,” Romero said in a statement, adding that the automaker tried to make workers afraid of losing the plant and suffer other repercussions.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14488 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:59 pm to
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Ah. You hate people with lisps too?


Sure, why not?
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
2095 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:34 pm to
LOL @ telling the truth being hateful. The truth hurts.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12934 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:46 pm to
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If the South starts voting unions into Southern auto plants (primarily the foreign owned ones), it will likely end the construction of auto plants in the South.


White people learned this lesson 40 years ago with the textile mills packing up and moving to Mexico. Blacks are on deck with this auto industry. Going to be a hard arse lesson.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12934 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:50 pm to
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VW has 122 plants in 32 countries including China, Mexico and Ghana. 121 of those plants have a collective bargaining agreement with VW because that is VW's preferred business model. The outlier is their Tennessee assembly plant where local politicians have adamantly opposed a collective bargaining agreement despite VW and VW employees expressing their desire to have said agreement.


European unions are not the UAW and it’s not the American labor model. The UAW is STILL under probation from the federal government for stealing members’ money. Why would anyone want to trust them with their paycheck?
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12934 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:52 pm to
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How long have you've been the union rep?


No shite.
Posted by TheRealTigerHorn
Member since Jun 2023
159 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:01 pm to
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European unions are not the UAW and it’s not the American labor model. The UAW is STILL under probation from the federal government for stealing members’ money. Why would anyone want to trust them with their paycheck?


This. A German union is more akin to a craft guild, with high standards for work quality, educational requirements (starts in their equivalent of middle school), etc. Nothing at all like the lazy, combative perpetual victimhood UAW.
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