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re: Vice Principal of South Korean students on sunken ferry hanged himself

Posted on 4/18/14 at 7:27 am to
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 7:27 am to
Honor, responsibility, grief, depression. We aren't in his shoes so there is no way for us to comprehend
Posted by Tiger4Ever
Member since Aug 2003
36702 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 7:29 am to
I imagine the visions and sounds of his students dying we're going to stay with him for a long, long time.

We don't know what he saw, heard, and felt.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:09 am to
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Regardless, is it mandatory for the captain to go down with his ship?


From the article:
quote:

But he added: "Koreans don't have the view that they have to stay with their ship until the end. It is a different culture from the West."

Still hard to believe that the captain is not required to direct emergency procedure/evacuation. He is just a coward.
Posted by Mr Fusion
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Member since Dec 2010
7457 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:12 am to
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those people.
Posted by ShubutaMS
5682 posts
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:15 am to
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Vice Principal of South Korean students on sunken ferry has hanged himself



pretty sure it's "hung himself" not "hanged himself"
Posted by Michael J Cocks
Right Here
Member since Jun 2007
47153 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:51 am to
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pretty sure it's "hung himself" not "hanged himself"


Lol you'd be way wrong.

Pictures are hung. People are hanged.

Trust me.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76290 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:53 am to
At least he didn't stab himself in the stomach
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:53 am to
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Why would you hang yourself after surviving a tragedy like this?

You are overcome with remorse about what happened to all students.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25343 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:54 am to
Survivor's guilt is pretty legit, I'm told. When you survive a catastrophic event like this, the "why me, why not them" hits you pretty hard.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11320 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:59 am to
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Pictures are hung. People are hanged. 


Some people are hung.
Posted by Michael J Cocks
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47153 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:02 am to
It's a combination of those emotions plus knowing and realizing your mortality. Some respond to that with a new zest and zeal for life, others can't take the thought of the reaper just looming over their head. That depression of realizing your life is so fragile can drive some people to a very dark place.
Posted by Michael J Cocks
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Member since Jun 2007
47153 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:03 am to
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Some people are hung.



Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:05 am to
The constant thought and question that you could have done more to save some people
Posted by shutterspeed
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Member since May 2007
63312 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:05 am to
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Pictures are hung. People are hanged.


Yes, but he used the word in the perfect tense, which may indeed require the use of hung (see also: has rung)

Strange word.
This post was edited on 4/18/14 at 9:07 am
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37248 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:06 am to
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Regardless, is it mandatory for the captain to go down with his ship?


Apparently not.

quote:

Lee has not commented on when he left the ship, although he has apologised for the loss of life.

He was described as an industry veteran by the officials from Chonghaejin Marine Co Ltd, the ship owner, and others who had met him described him as an "expert".

"I don't know why he abandoned the ship like that," said Ju Hi-chun, a maritime author who interviewed the captain in 2006 as one of the experts on the route to Jeju island.

But he added: "Koreans don't have the view that they have to stay with their ship until the end. It is a different culture from the West."
Posted by Michael J Cocks
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:19 am to
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Yes, but he used the word in the perfect tense, which may indeed require the use of hung (see also: has rung)


He could have said "hangs himself." But it's never "hung" when you are referring to a person with a noose around their neck hanging from something.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31918 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:53 am to
I have to say, I am sure the captain could have done a lot more for the ship, but reading all of this I don't think he should be arrested

quote:

The ship's 69-year-old captain has also come under scrutiny after witnesses said he was among the first to escape the sinking vessel that was on a 400-km (300-mile) voyage to Jeju.

According to investigators, Captain Lee Joon-seok was not on the bridge at the time the Sewol started to list sharply, with a junior officer at the wheel.

Prosecutors on Friday issued arrest warrants for Lee, the officer at the wheel and one other crew member for failing in their duty to aid passengers.

"I'm not sure where the captain was before the accident. However, right after the accident, I saw him rushing back into the steering house ahead of me," said Oh Young-seok, one of the helmsmen on the ship who was off duty and resting at the time.

"He calmly asked by how much the ship was tilted, and tried to re-balance the ship," said Oh, who was speaking from a hospital bed in the city of Mokpo on Friday, where the injured have been taken.


NORMAL PRACTICE

Handing over the helm is normal practice on the voyage from Incheon to Jeju, which usually takes 13.5 hours, according to local shipping crew.

Divers gained access to the cargo deck of the ferry on Friday, although that was not close to the passenger quarters, according to a coastguard official.

Other coastguard officials said that divers made several attempts to reach the passenger areas but failed.

"We cannot even see the ship's white colour. Our people are just touching the hull with their hands," Kim Chun-il, a diver from Undine Marine Industries, told relatives of the missing.

The ferry went down in calm conditions and was following a frequently travelled route in familiar waters. Although relatively close to shore, the area was free of rocks and reefs.

Lee has not commented on when he left the ship, although he has apologised for the loss of life.

He was described as an industry veteran by the officials from Chonghaejin Marine Co Ltd, the ship owner, and others who had met him described him as an "expert".

"I don't know why he abandoned the ship like that," said Ju Hi-chun, a maritime author who interviewed the captain in 2006 as one of the experts on the route to Jeju island.

But he added: "Koreans don't have the view that they have to stay with their ship until the end. It is a different culture from the West."
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 10:10 am to
ShubutaMS

quote:

pretty sure it's "hung himself" not "hanged himself"



Wow...you are stupid. I bet you're someone who corrects people when they are right and you are wrong.

That the most stupid thing you can do!
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51660 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 11:26 am to
A Japanese man who survived the titanic was fired and disowned from his family for not going down with the ship. Fun fact of the day.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15298 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 11:44 am to
Sad story. Maybe its just me but I don't think it should be a legal obligation to go down with the ship. If you want to ostracize him, call him a coward or something like that fine. But wanting to save your own life doesn't warrant prison time imo
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