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TWA Flight 800: Can Someone Explain The Physics/Flight Path?

Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:11 pm
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:11 pm
This post concerns TWA Flight 800, the third most deadly aircraft disaster in American history.

I am not a scientist, pilot, or physicist so it is difficult for me to understand how the 747, after suffering a center fuel tank explosion and the immediate subsequent loss of the leading quarter of its fuselage, continued to not only fly but climb several thousand feet.




When an aircraft breaks up from explosion in flight, would it not immediately begin to fall or at least descend? It would seem that such a catastrophic explosion would not allow the aircraft to continue to not only fly but climb? Are there any pilots or physicists that might offer some thoughts?

TIA

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Posted by Navajo61490
Baton rouge
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:13 pm to
aliens, fbi, aids

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Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:16 pm to
If there was an explosion, ie thrust, that produced force so the wings produced lift, it will gain altitude
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:17 pm to
When the front breaks off, the center of gravity of the remaining fuselage suddenly shifts far aft of the wings, which are still generating lift. The net result is a large moment rotating the reminder of the plane into a "nose high" attitude (unfortunate terminology). The remaining fuselage climbs until the wings no longer generate enough lift to keep the plane in the air on their own. At this point it continues on a ballistic arc until all remaining vertical speed is bled off, gravity wins, and the fuselage plummets to its ultimate fate.
This post was edited on 8/5/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:17 pm to
is this the one that was shot down?
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:18 pm to
Just from looking at the pic in your OP, it appears the plane became inverted, and the flaps were in the down position and the velocity cause the plane to lift and eventually arc downwards.
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
2593 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

When the front breaks off, the center of gravity of the remaining fuselage suddenly shifts far aft of the wings, which are still generating lift. The net result is a large moment rotating the reminder of the plane into a "nose high" attitude (unfortunate terminology). The remaining fuselage climbs until the wings no longer generate enough lift to keep the plane in the air on their own. At this point it continues on a ballistic arc until all remaining vertical speed is bled off, gravity wins, and the fuselage plummets to its ultimate fate.

This seems to make sense.
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

is this the one that was shot down?

This is one of the conspiracy theories.
Posted by Vdrine
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by waiting4saturday
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:27 pm to
Check out the documentary on Netflix, one of the best I've seen
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

quote:

When the front breaks off, the center of gravity of the remaining fuselage suddenly shifts far aft of the wings, which are still generating lift. The net result is a large moment rotating the reminder of the plane into a "nose high" attitude (unfortunate terminology). The remaining fuselage climbs until the wings no longer generate enough lift to keep the plane in the air on their own. At this point it continues on a ballistic arc until all remaining vertical speed is bled off, gravity wins, and the fuselage plummets to its ultimate fate.
This seems to make sense.

Yeah, it's real simple, the front fell off.
Posted by notiger1997
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:30 pm to
quote:


This is one of the conspiracy theories.


And here we go. This is why you posted isn't it?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

Yeah, it's real simple, the front fell off.


I don't even have to click.

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[Interviewer:] And?

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[Interviewer:] And anything else?

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Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:33 pm to
It's not in an environment, it's beyond the environment.
Posted by rattlebucket
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:39 pm to


Boarding group C and them seats in the back of the plane looking pretty good now eh?
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
2593 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

This is why you posted isn't it?

I am highly skeptical of a missile strike. I am not much for conspiracy theories.
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
2593 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

Check out the documentary on Netflix, one of the best I've seen

Excellent, thanks.
Posted by AlbertMeansWell
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:45 pm to
This post was edited on 8/5/16 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Korkstand
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28708 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

Is this a real interview?


No, it's satire.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:50 pm to
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