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Transgender teen murdered; genitals mutilated and eyes gouged out - "NOT a hate crime"

Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:40 pm
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29533 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:40 pm
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Ally Steinfeld, a transgender teenager, was murdered in Cabool, Missouri, earlier this month. Now, details about her violent death are beginning to emerge. According to Kansas City, Steinfeld, who had come out as transgender earlier this year, had been stabbed to death. Her body was found to have been severely mutilated and burned. “I still don’t know who in their right minds would do something like that,” said Linda Camara, who is close friends with one of Steinfeld’s cousins. “Killing someone is very bad, but I mean to do it ... I just can’t even see someone doing that.” Three have been charged with her murder: Andrew Vrba, Briana Calderas, and Isis Schauer. Vrba admitted to the stabbing; Calderas and Schauer were present and helped burn the body. Vrba says he had attempted to poison her, but when she refused to drink the poison he resorted to stabbing her. A fourth individual, James Grigsby, has been charged with abandonment of a corpse and tampering with physical evidence, both felonies.
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Vrba, who is 18 years old, bragged to police about the crime, adding that he had gouged out Steinfeld's eyes and destroyed her genitals. The Human Rights campaign has noted that several news outlets had misgendered Steinfeld in the reports on her death. She was also referred to as male in court proceedings. Steinfeld had come out as transgender on social media in May and had changed her name on Facebook. Texas County Sheriff James Sigman has criticized media for including the details of her death. “I know the family of the victim was very upset for they did not know the full details of how their loved passed because I did not disclose that information to them for many reasons,” Sigman wrote. “Our investigation is still ongoing and details of the crime like that should not be released to the public... As usual in homicide cases it is hard to make (sense) of the reason or figure out why people do the things that they do.” Many are speculating that the incident was a hate crime, but police are unconvinced: “I would say murder in the first-degree is all that matters,” said prosecutor Parke Stevens Jr, who does not think the killer's motivation related to Steinfeld's gender. “That is a hate crime in itself.” Probable cause statements omit the detail that Steinfeld was transgender.







This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71421 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:41 pm to
I hope they die after a long and terrible time in prison. It is unbelievably hard to prove a hate crime and the AD didn't choose to include those charges so it probably did not clear the threshold.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 6:58 pm
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18451 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:43 pm to
Wow. What a fricked up way to die. Give those POS's the needle.

As for it not being a hate crime, the concept of hate crimes is stupid. One crime is not worse than another because of handpicked differences.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39207 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:43 pm to
its only a hate crime if the victim is black
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:44 pm to
It's much much harder to prosecute if "hate crime" is on the docket.

Best just to get the guaranteed conviction and give someone the death penalty than to try to swing for the fences with hate crime.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30578 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:44 pm to
ISIS did this!
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5344 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:45 pm to
I see 4 individuals needing the death penalty.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83474 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:45 pm to
That's an unfortunate last name.

frick them all, though. I hope they suffer.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18451 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:46 pm to
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The Human Rights campaign has noted that several news outlets had misgendered Steinfeld in the reports on her death


Really? That's what the Human Rights campaign is spending time on? Correcting pronouns in newspapers?
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:46 pm to
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its only a hate crime if the victim is black


But the perps are white so it does meet the other half of the equation.
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 6:47 pm
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25713 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:47 pm to
That is messed up they should do the same to those 4 and see if they like how that feels.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29533 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:48 pm to
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Best just to get the guaranteed conviction and give someone the death penalty than to try to swing for the fences with hate crime.

Truth
Posted by GulfstreamTiger
Sondheimer Louisiana
Member since May 2017
796 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:48 pm to
Hate crime tag going to change anything. Hate crime in itself just the stupidest of stupid law.
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
15382 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:49 pm to
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destroyed her genitals

So they destroyed her dick and balls?
Posted by jpbTiger
Tampa FL
Member since Dec 2007
4979 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:49 pm to
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the concept of hate crimes is stupid
Posted by jpbTiger
Tampa FL
Member since Dec 2007
4979 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:51 pm to
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So they destroyed her dick and balls?


Was working on a response along these lines, but you beat me to it. Was torn between pointing out the irony (her penis is gone....) and the obvious tragedy, sad to happen to anyone regardless of their issues.....
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:53 pm to
Disgusting animals
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24527 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:55 pm to
We should have a guillotine
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108534 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:55 pm to
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ISIS did this!



Quite literally as it turns out.
Posted by jpbTiger
Tampa FL
Member since Dec 2007
4979 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 6:57 pm to
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Quite literally as it turns out.


All the time- coming soon to a small town near you.
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