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re: The student loan industrial complex

Posted on 8/17/23 at 5:24 pm to
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/17/23 at 5:24 pm to
The second they made it insanely difficult to discharge student loans through bankruptcy like every other debt is when the system became broke
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6562 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 5:55 pm to
Pray tell, at what point did this happen?
Posted by 92Tiger
Member since Dec 2015
588 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 6:26 pm to
A good solution is to follow the Constitution.The bankruptcy clause allows Congress to establish uniform bankruptcy laws across the land. So basically there is a right to bankruptcy and Congress can limit it. Limit it they did by not allowing people to discharge student debt.

Change the law back to what it was in the 80's on 90's and make student loans fully dischargeable. You face a pretty stiff consequence for filing a bankruptcy, so most would not do so lightly. Second, lenders would have to worry about students' future ability to pay the loans back. They may decide not to lend to those wanting to major in study gender studies etc. Third, the Universities would have to keep tuition increases in check. Increases far exceeding the rate of inflation would come to an end. This solution brings sanity to the issue without the proposed giveaways that just encourage more bad behavior by borrowers, schools, and lending institutions.
This post was edited on 8/17/23 at 6:28 pm
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14740 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 6:34 pm to
First in 1976 with the Higher Education Act of 1976 and then doubled down with private student loans with the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 2005.

If you’re a private company and you could lend money without any consequences of people being able to file for bankruptcy, why wouldn’t you loan? And if your a “non profit” university that could charge any amount because people could easily get loans, why wouldn’t you. I mean, LSU have a lazy river for fricks sake. A university does. That didn’t happen because everyone is charging fair value for an education (whatever degree it may be).
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6562 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 6:57 pm to
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First in 1976 with the Higher Education Act of 1976 and then doubled down with private student loans with the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 2005.


Yet student loan problems didn't explode until 2010. Funny that.

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That didn’t happen because everyone is charging fair value for an education


Students demanded projection screens in classroom, wifi everywhere, a rebuilt library, the lazy river, newer dorms, yadda yadda. You don't get the enrollment unless you meet consumer demand. Is it ridiculous? Yep.

Early Childhood Education students will blow close to 90k (in state) getting a degree that will pay them $55k a year in Texas to spend time cutting construction paper in a third grade classroom. Could they have cut said construction paper with an eight week bootcamp on classroom management? Sure.

What does your $100k degree from the business school actually teach you? It doesn't take you $100k and four years to teach you how to run an accounts receivable/payable team, you need life experience with people, and some knowledge of fraud tactics, which I can teach someone in three days. Yet, four years, and $100k.
Posted by GWJC
Louisiana, America's Third World
Member since Aug 2023
14 posts
Posted on 8/17/23 at 9:08 pm to
Legalize IQ testing for employment and the demand for college education for most jobs will evaporate. Thanks to bleeding heart federal judges, this is not currently possible.
This post was edited on 8/17/23 at 9:11 pm
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