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The Recent Media Narrative of Racist/Bad Cops Is Attracting The Wrong People to Job
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:01 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:01 am
In today’s environment, why would anyone really want to be a cop knowing they would be vilified bc of extremely rare instances not involving them specifically? Don’t get me wrong police are NOT above the law and in the Memphis case the were treated appropriately and quickly.
LEOs have always attracted the types that like the POWER of the position but there was a high number of people the joined for more admirable reasons or at least relatively neutral positions (good pay/benefits, etc).
The real question is the few people that want the job (we know in many places Police are woefully understaffed) are they really of good enough quality to do the job?
Memphis PD handled the current situation very appropriately and took swift action. There is no empirical evidence that this is anything other than an isolated incident. Yet here we are having this painted as a systematic problem.
Police need people so they will hire who they can get at the moment so I’m assuming the bar has been lowered significantly to get people in the door.
LEOs have always attracted the types that like the POWER of the position but there was a high number of people the joined for more admirable reasons or at least relatively neutral positions (good pay/benefits, etc).
The real question is the few people that want the job (we know in many places Police are woefully understaffed) are they really of good enough quality to do the job?
Memphis PD handled the current situation very appropriately and took swift action. There is no empirical evidence that this is anything other than an isolated incident. Yet here we are having this painted as a systematic problem.
Police need people so they will hire who they can get at the moment so I’m assuming the bar has been lowered significantly to get people in the door.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 9:06 am
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Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:06 am to STEVED00
Good post.
Unfortunately w/the standards being lowered we are gonna see more situations like Memphis until the standards are raised and there is accountability across the board.
Unfortunately w/the standards being lowered we are gonna see more situations like Memphis until the standards are raised and there is accountability across the board.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:06 am to STEVED00
quote:We don’t start sentences here with the word “yet”.
Yet here we are having this painted as a systematic problem.
The Aggie Board might embrace you with your fancy talking self.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:07 am to STEVED00
That’s the point. The shadow demons are coalescing their plans. Go with God and bring light or be cast into darkness
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:09 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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Unfortunately w/the standards being lowered we are gonna see more situations like Memphis until the standards are raised and there is accountability across the board.
The Body Cams are the ultimate accountability. It should be standard. The one thing I think we don’t give enough thought too is the initial encounter. For the one being pulled over, you don’t fear for your life that the cop will kill you. The cop on the other hand, has no idea what is waiting for him/her on the other side of that car door so he/she is on full alert mode (and they should be).
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 9:12 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:11 am to STEVED00
Agreed.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:12 am to STEVED00
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The Body Cams are the ultimate accountability. It should be standard.
If I’m a cop I wouldn’t leave the station without mine. Takes hearsay out of it.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:13 am to STEVED00
Cops are going the way of teachers and nurses, where people with options avoid it because of all the shite you get at work and the only people going into the field are people with little other choice.
Add in the fact that cops put their life on the line, and depending on the city it can also be very lucrative, and you're getting some really weird motivations.
Add in the fact that cops put their life on the line, and depending on the city it can also be very lucrative, and you're getting some really weird motivations.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:15 am to Thundercles
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Cops are going the way of teachers and nurses, where people with options avoid it because of all the shite you get at work and the only people going into the field are people with little other choice.
Or worse, people with bad intentions.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:15 am to elprez00
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If I’m a cop I wouldn’t leave the station without mine. Takes hearsay out of it.
Body cams should be on:
Fireman
Cops
Waitresses
Teachers
Doctors
Chick fil A workers
No exceptions
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:17 am to STEVED00
Cops have a tough job and it takes the right person and a lot of training to deal with someone resisting and not complying. Anger can easily take over and cause just about anyone to make a lot of bad decisions, ESPECIALLY if you are in a role of authority.
Police brutality is more of a training and culture issue than it is a race issue. And those things are much easier to fix than “systemic racism.”
I’d like to see data on police brutality to determine what direction it has been trending the last 10-20 years.
Police brutality is more of a training and culture issue than it is a race issue. And those things are much easier to fix than “systemic racism.”
I’d like to see data on police brutality to determine what direction it has been trending the last 10-20 years.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 9:18 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:18 am to STEVED00
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Or worse, people with bad intentions.
So much this.
But as with everything it all comes back to parenting and family. Strong parents, strong families, and communities centered on the belief of the true mercy and love of God can overcome anything. Unfortunately those communities are getting smaller by the day and replaced with a state run divided populace full of hatred and anger where there should be love and joy.
We live in the most wealthy and free and wonderful country in the history of earth and we spend everyday miserable trying to tear it apart.
The Lord will care for his sheep. Worship and praise him in earnest and you can walk through the valley of the shadow of death fearing no evil. Shun the Lord and he will cast you into the fire.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 9:20 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:19 am to STEVED00
You are opening Pandora’s box with this one.
Those of us in the industry have predicted this type of fall out was coming.
We’ve heard that diversity is our strength for the past few years while silently watching hiring standards diminish to below what anyone should reasonably expect. Inflation and weak leaders incapable of funding competitive salaries has made entry level employment near the poverty level, often times lower than what cashiers make at Buccee’s.
This won’t be the last time you witness an event like this.
I have never seen anyone get away with anything in life. Eventually, when you start cutting corners to meet a self fulfilling agenda the compromise catches up with you. You get what you pay and promote for.
Those of us in the industry have predicted this type of fall out was coming.
We’ve heard that diversity is our strength for the past few years while silently watching hiring standards diminish to below what anyone should reasonably expect. Inflation and weak leaders incapable of funding competitive salaries has made entry level employment near the poverty level, often times lower than what cashiers make at Buccee’s.
This won’t be the last time you witness an event like this.
I have never seen anyone get away with anything in life. Eventually, when you start cutting corners to meet a self fulfilling agenda the compromise catches up with you. You get what you pay and promote for.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:21 am to The People
You’ve got balls. What you’re doing is tougher than a stint in the military. Americans don’t realize that.
You have my respect. Even if the profession is plagued with shitbirds.
You have my respect. Even if the profession is plagued with shitbirds.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:25 am to SteelerBravesDawg
quote:
Unfortunately w/the standards being lowered we are gonna see more situations like Memphis until the standards are raised and there is accountability across the board.
This is what the left wants.
In reality, we need to pay cops more.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:25 am to The People
quote:
This won’t be the last time you witness an event like this.
It's certainly not the first
quote:
We’ve heard that diversity is our strength for the past few years
The problem started way before then
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:26 am to STEVED00
They will have people begging for the feds to step in and we get our federal police force.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:28 am to STEVED00
The problem with cops today is deep-seated and started about 40 years ago when the US began advancing its War on Drugs. It began in the inner cities of large metropolitan areas and then expanded outward to where it’s not even prevalent in little podunk towns with no history of violent crime.
The change began with “proactive” policing, i.e. cops transitioning from being passive protectors and responders to actively intervening in the lives of citizens and looking for crimes to charge. The culture of policing as protectors of the community changed to a culture of us vs. them, with all non-cops being the “them”.
It all led to increases in arrests which in turn greatly benefitted the for-profit prison industry. This all resulted in more and more federal money pumped into department budgets which in turn led to the proliferation of the military equipment we now see in every single department. Only entrenching the military occupation mindset now held by nearly all cops.
The resulting violence can’t be seen as anything other than expected. It’s by design. Cop violence isn’t a racial thing, it’s a cop thing. Black and brown people just happen to bear the brunt because most police are heavily concentrated in lower-income neighborhoods which they comprise.
The change began with “proactive” policing, i.e. cops transitioning from being passive protectors and responders to actively intervening in the lives of citizens and looking for crimes to charge. The culture of policing as protectors of the community changed to a culture of us vs. them, with all non-cops being the “them”.
It all led to increases in arrests which in turn greatly benefitted the for-profit prison industry. This all resulted in more and more federal money pumped into department budgets which in turn led to the proliferation of the military equipment we now see in every single department. Only entrenching the military occupation mindset now held by nearly all cops.
The resulting violence can’t be seen as anything other than expected. It’s by design. Cop violence isn’t a racial thing, it’s a cop thing. Black and brown people just happen to bear the brunt because most police are heavily concentrated in lower-income neighborhoods which they comprise.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:40 am to STEVED00
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The Body Cams are the ultimate accountability.
There are plenty of videos on YouTube, etc where police mute or turn off their body cams during an interaction, especially when talking amongst themselves.
Other times, the video files are somehow “corrupted” and lost forever. Requests for body cam videos can be denied outright because they are “part of an ongoing investigation” but it’s an internal investigation that has no real end and there’s no discipline applied.
Some agencies try to intimidate people who request body cam videos by trying to force them to illegally give their real identities to even request the videos.
One last dirty trick is to charge an exorbitant amount of money for a video. Remember - your taxes already paid for the camera, equipment used for the video transfer, and the salaries of the people who will be doing the work. However, some police departments will bill you several hundred dollars for a CD or 2 of one incident.
And you’re going to have mixed results trying to video using your own phone. The police will say not to worry - they are recording everything but will use every dirty trick to make sure you can’t get a copy.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:43 am to STEVED00
All I know is that I heard the way the cops talked to each other after the event and they ALL sounded like thug arse gangsters. It was pretty embarrassing listening to them talk like that in a “police” uniform
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