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The IRS says blacks more likely to face audit, says it will do more to erase disparities
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:33 pm
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The IRS on Monday said that Black taxpayers are significantly more likely to face an IRS audit, confirming recent findings. IRS Commissioner Daniel Werfel said the agency is weighing changes to address the disparity.
A study released in January by economists at Stanford University, the University of Michigan, the U.S. Department of the Treasury and the University of Chicago found the IRS audits Black taxpayers about three to five times more than other Americans. Researchers based their assessment on microdata from roughly 148 million tax returns and 780,000 audits.
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“While there is a need for further research, our initial findings support the conclusion that Black taxpayers may be audited at higher rates than would be expected given their share of the population,” Werfel wrote in a May 15 letter to the Senate Finance Committee.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:33 pm to tiggerthetooth
Cause they get too much back?
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:34 pm to tiggerthetooth
Care to guess which section of the population is less likely to file their taxes three to five times less?
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:34 pm to tiggerthetooth
They do a lot of shite at higher rates than you would expect. Murder, steal, rape, etc.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:34 pm to tiggerthetooth
Is it more likely linked to race or low credit?
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:34 pm to tiggerthetooth
Now do audit rates on conservatives
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:39 pm to tiggerthetooth
The IRS should not know if the taxpayer is black, white, Oriental or whatever.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:43 pm to tiggerthetooth
That explains a lot.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:46 pm to tiggerthetooth
Driving a $75,000 hellcat with no taxable income might be a red flag
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:48 pm to tiggerthetooth
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The IRS doesn't track the race of filers, but the study from earlier this year claimed the higher audit rate for Black taxpayers is due to a flawed artificial intelligence algorithm relied on by the IRS to decide who gets audited.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:48 pm to tiggerthetooth
Why, exactly, are they more likely to get one?
Because they are running fricking scams like having both parents claim head of household and different kids to raise their standard deductions?
Because they are running fricking scams like having both parents claim head of household and different kids to raise their standard deductions?
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:49 pm to tiggerthetooth
Cue the “we must do better.. we will do better “
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:51 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Specifically, he vowed to examine algorithms for audits of filers claiming the earned income tax credit, or EITC, a tax break to low- to moderate-income workers. The EITC is more closely scrutinized because it’s refundable, meaning it still provides a refund even when the credit value exceeds taxes owed. Werfel stressed the IRS does not and will not consider race as part of the audit selection process, but the original research suggests the EITC has contributed to the disparity.
So, they know what is causing the disparity in audits, but want to change it just because of a potential racial bias when the reality is it's because of an issue with people that claim the EITC.
Do these audits often find issues with returns that include the EITC?
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:52 pm to tiggerthetooth
First Off, there is no way for them to know the person was black.
Second, its because blacks are more likely to receive a credit without paying in.
Which is why reparations is a dumb to begin with because the wealth transfer has already been happening.
Second, its because blacks are more likely to receive a credit without paying in.
Which is why reparations is a dumb to begin with because the wealth transfer has already been happening.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:53 pm to tiggerthetooth
Why does the IRS know anyone's race?
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:55 pm to tiggerthetooth
because a large percentage of them end up with a negative tax liability through refundable tax credits. the fact that net out a negative number is going to trigger scrutiny
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:56 pm to tiggerthetooth
Hmmm
You’d think by simply removing race o the paperwork would solve this problem
You’d think by simply removing race o the paperwork would solve this problem
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:56 pm to tiggerthetooth
c on z is scanning reddit and DU for an appropriate response that doesnt say anything
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:56 pm to doubleb
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The IRS should not know if the taxpayer is black, white, Orientsl or whatever.
Most likely do not know until audited but address is indicative of race in most areas. Not 100% accurate of course but a pretty consistent indicator.
A big part of the issue could stem from the high number of black tax payers who use tax preparers in the neighborhood who aren't really tax professionals. I have known a bunch of black folks who prepare tax returns with no training or anything...most tax returns are fairly simple for individuals but some are not and need to be done by a competent professional. The number of people preparing tax returns in black communities without any training or certification stems from black folks rightfully mistrusting white tax preparers...also stems from the idea of keeping the money in the community, to a lesser extent. That is understandable and laudable but it is not without risk, especially if the return is complicated. Most are not, especially with recent tax changes which eliminated the ability to itemize for most individuals...anyone can do that return without fear of audit because there is nothing to audit, the numbers are what they are and the preparation merely consists of putting them in the right spot on the form.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:57 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Driving a $75,000 hellcat with no taxable income might be a red flag
Unless it is claimed as a business expense how would the IRS know what you were driving?
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