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Tech Worker Confessions: Many admit they did little to nothing for years (WSJ)

Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:28 pm
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:28 pm
Glad WSJ finally did an article on this. I’ve noticed it for several years now, and this article sums up the work ethic and culture in silicone valley.

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These Tech Workers Say They Were Hired to Do Nothing

Amid layoffs, former workers in tech are venting about jobs with little to do; ‘hoarding us like Pokémon cards’

WSJ

Un­til last year, Made­lyn Machado, 33 years old, worked for Meta. Ex­cept she says she didn’t re­ally work at all. 

Ms. Machado, who held a po­si­tion as a re­cruiter, says that af­ter join­ing the com­pany in Sep­tember 2021, she spent much of her time in meet­ings that didn’t ac­com­plish any­thing, and that the par­ent of Face­book and In­sta­gram had too many re­cruiters and not enough work for them to do.  

“We just don’t hire any­body and, like, we still get paid,” she said she was told by other re­cruiters in a vi­ral Tik­Tok video doc­u­ment­ing her ex­pe­ri­ence. She added that she was paid $190,000 a year and was told she wasn’t ex­pected to hire any­one in her first year, given that she was still learn­ing the ropes. Meta de­clined to com­ment. 

In re­cent weeks, other for­mer tech work­ers have posted sim­i­lar videos, rack­ing up mil­lions of views. They say they col­lected pay­checks from large tech com­pa­nies with­out do­ing much. 


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Such con­fes­sions—which have drawn plenty of crit­i­cism on­line—aren’t sur­pris­ing, ex­ec­u­tives and in­dus­try pro­fes­sion­als say. Tech com­pa­nies that boomed dur­ing the pan­demic were flush with cash, they say, and snapped up work­ers to build a deep bench and hoard tal­ent from com­peti­tors, even if those work­ers weren’t be­ing fully uti­lized.


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Oth­ers blame what they view as a per­mis­sive cor­po­rate cul­ture in Sil­i­con Val­ley that cre­ates en­vi­ron­ments where it’s pos­si­ble to stay em­ployed with­out work­ing hard. Thomas Siebel, head of the soft­ware com­pany C3.ai Inc., says tech em­ploy­ers’ em­brace of re­mote work has made mat­ters worse.

“Peo­ple were job-hop­ping from jobs where they were do­ing noth­ing, work­ing from home, to an­other where they were do­ing noth­ing, work­ing from home, and got paid 15% more,” he says. Em­ploy­ees at Mr. Siebel’s com­pany are ex­pected to work full time from the of­fice, which he says is es­sen­tial to high per­for­mance and col­lab­o­ra­tion. 

 



There is still a loose structure to most of these tech companies. So under performers can go a long time before they are identified as useless and RIF’ed. Many leave voluntarily and move to the next startup when structure is applied, accountability becomes traceable, and their job becomes “uncool”. That’s their whole career: bouncing from start up to start up…doing nothing, then leaving when expected to actually do something.

This should surprise nobody that works with Silicon Valley companies.
This post was edited on 4/7/23 at 8:43 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63313 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:30 pm to
I will like to obtain one of these jobs, please.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3038 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:31 pm to
They didn't hire Ms. Machado to hoard her talent as a recruiter, they paid her to do nothing for another reason. It is pretty amazing that having enough Machados on the payroll was worth $190K/ yr, though, and also that they thought it was literally more productive to have her do nothing than to try to get her to do anything.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63989 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:31 pm to
Just like some college football coaches would do before caps, just hoard talent that never sees the field, just so the competition doesn't get to have them.

The problem with this strategy is India.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18125 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:34 pm to
Recruiter = tech worker?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:36 pm to

SlowFP must be a lawyer for Meta.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29289 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

We just don’t hire any­body and, like, we still get paid,” she said she was told by other re­cruiters in a vi­ral Tik­Tok video doc­u­ment­ing her ex­pe­ri­ence. She added that she was paid $190,000 a year and was told she wasn’t ex­pected to hire any­one in her first year, given that she was still learn­ing the ropes. Meta de­clined to com­ment.


Take an entire year to get your feet wet and then actually start doing stuff.

Solid gig if you can get it and keep it
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63989 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

Recruiter = tech worker?


tech worker = works for a tech company
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25348 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

tech worker = works for a tech company


Generally yeah.

Keep that in mind if you hire some of these people. They don’t take to structure and accountability very well.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61237 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:47 pm to
Tech world probably still has a lot of fat they could trim off.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
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Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:48 pm to
So what? Why does this upset conservatives so much?
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2981 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:49 pm to
None this surprises me even a little.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27182 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:49 pm to
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Many admit they did little to nothing for years


The cake is a lie.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
17985 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:51 pm to
That’s why Elon told many of them to frick off.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2981 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

That’s why Elon told many of them to frick off.



Twitter is legitimately better than ever, and he did that after dropping so much dead weight.
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
175875 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:53 pm to
so basically admins?
Posted by Prisms
Member since Mar 2023
147 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:53 pm to
Yeah, check out the subreddit r/overemployed. Quite a few people making a quarter a million to over a million annually, employed at several tech jobs simultaneously while they do an hour or two of "work" per day, while spending most days on playing videogames.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90504 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:55 pm to
It's an article that just cements what everyone knew on both sides. I don't see people being 'upset' about it
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8375 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:55 pm to
The tech guys from 15-20 years ago built empires. I knew a guy who worked for facebook before they went public. Smart, with a strong work ethic. Lets just say he retired at 30 once they did go public...then went to work for them as a contractor .

That being said, the tech industry went sideways. They will/are being hurt along with the online "coach" that I keep seeing. Those idiots....
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:56 pm to
I wish I could be paid just to boost the companies experience level.
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