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Stupid journalists thread: Why Old Timey Jobs are Hot Again
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:40 pm
So, this WSJ article centers around the trend of millennials working as bartenders, barbers, and baristas.
No, you idiot. They're not "choosing" to be bartenders and baristas because it's trendy! They work those jobs because the recent grad white collar job market isn't hiring. These aren't people who grew up dreaming of doing that for a living. These are people pushed into working 2 or 3 service industry jobs just to make their rent and student loan payments because that economics degree isn't opening up any doors.
Just like every other stupid article bemoaning some seemingly insane trend of millennials living in cities, forgoing children, biking en lieu of owning a car, or not watching cable tv, it mostly boils down to the fact that they are not getting traditional jobs that pay traditional salaries, and not by choice. When they get those things, they behave exactly like any other generation: they have kids, get married, and move to suburbs or neighborhoods with good schools. When they don't, they crowd into trendy, relatively cheap neighborhoods and resort to the service industry to get by.
Any thoughts?
Link to the idiotic article if you want it LINK
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Walk around parts of Brooklyn, Portland or Pittsburgh, and you’ll find stylish cocktail bars, barbers and the occasional butcher shop staffed by young, college-educated employees. For an affluent segment of today’s urban economy, these jobs have been revalued from low-status semi-manual labor to glamorous occupations, says sociologist Richard Ocejo.
No, you idiot. They're not "choosing" to be bartenders and baristas because it's trendy! They work those jobs because the recent grad white collar job market isn't hiring. These aren't people who grew up dreaming of doing that for a living. These are people pushed into working 2 or 3 service industry jobs just to make their rent and student loan payments because that economics degree isn't opening up any doors.
Just like every other stupid article bemoaning some seemingly insane trend of millennials living in cities, forgoing children, biking en lieu of owning a car, or not watching cable tv, it mostly boils down to the fact that they are not getting traditional jobs that pay traditional salaries, and not by choice. When they get those things, they behave exactly like any other generation: they have kids, get married, and move to suburbs or neighborhoods with good schools. When they don't, they crowd into trendy, relatively cheap neighborhoods and resort to the service industry to get by.
Any thoughts?
Link to the idiotic article if you want it LINK
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 4:46 pm
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:47 pm to kingbob
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because that economics degree isn't opening up any doors.
I'd venture to guess most of those folks don't have degrees in Economics, Finance, or any other STEM degree.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:49 pm to Centinel
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I'd venture to guess most of those folks don't have degrees in Economics, Finance, or any other STEM degree.
Not too many STEM folks (engineers still find plenty of work), but I know a lot of "business" majors (mostly Business Administration, marketing, Econ, and Finance) that are still stuck in the same service jobs they worked in high school.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:50 pm to kingbob
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glamorous occupations
I know when I order a beer at the bar, I look at the bartender and daydream "man, I wish I could be like him."
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:51 pm to kingbob
Marketing, GBus, management, and international trade and finance are all largely useless without a higher degree. Accounting, finance, and IT are certainly still excellent majors.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:52 pm to kingbob
Cable TV is 99% garbage though. I am a millennial who works an office job and I hate paying for cable simply because it's a shitty product overall.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:52 pm to kingbob
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When they don't, they crowd into trendy, relatively cheap neighborhoods and resort to the service industry to get by.
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Brooklyn
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:54 pm to Centinel
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I'd venture to guess most of those folks don't have degrees in Economics, Finance, or any other STEM degree.
Youd be wrong
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:56 pm to kingbob
Bartenders and baristas aren't cool I agree.
But real old timey jobs like woodworking, carpentry, blacksmithing etc are cool imo
But real old timey jobs like woodworking, carpentry, blacksmithing etc are cool imo
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:59 pm to Breesus
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Youd be wrong
If you're talking specifically NYC I can see that being the case. The jobs just aren't there unless you come from a high-power Ivy.
Outside of major coastal urban centers, no I'm not. But that's their damn fault for wanting to live in an area with retarded COL and little for job prospects.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 4:59 pm to kingbob
The 30 year old barber I know is doing great. His only competition in town is about 90 so I don't think he'll be around too much longer.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 5:00 pm to chalmetteowl
It's cheaper than Manhatten, and it was relatively cheap when they first got there. However, when young white people move into a place and displace people who commit crimes, the property values and rents always seem to go up for some reason. Then, those neighborhoods are flooded with posers and the cheapskates are priced out and have to find somewhere else to live. Weird, huh?
It goes violent ghetto trash, then gays and starving artists, then service industry and cultural small businesses (think Yoga Studios and thrift shops), then trust fund posers, then young families, then wealthier families, then old empty-nesters, then it transitions back to violent ghetto trash as the old people who stopped maintaining their properties due to old age die and are replaced by Section 8, starting the cycle anew!
It goes violent ghetto trash, then gays and starving artists, then service industry and cultural small businesses (think Yoga Studios and thrift shops), then trust fund posers, then young families, then wealthier families, then old empty-nesters, then it transitions back to violent ghetto trash as the old people who stopped maintaining their properties due to old age die and are replaced by Section 8, starting the cycle anew!
Posted on 6/6/17 at 5:03 pm to kingbob
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When they don't, they crowd into trendy, relatively cheap neighborhoods and resort to the service industry to get by
The "edgy" neighborhood, plastic rim glasses, and flea market clothes that are hipster-essentials today are as much a style statement as a indicator of their economic reality. Make no mistake: this is the product of almost 8 years of weak economic prospects for young graduates in many fields.
Usually the presence of a gay community is the first sign of a neighborhood gentrification. In places like Baton Rouge, Atlanta, Memphis, or Birmingham....that was because the gay community wasn't always embraced and thus sought out an area more isolated from their heterosexual colleagues and friends. Once the gay community is there long enough to establish a few businesses and upgrade the housing stock...the hipsters move in to take advantage of the now (relatively) safer area and new service jobs.
The "hipsters" are often followed by younger professionals, who end up driving rental prices up. The young professionals usually don't have kids yet and are attracted to the affordable housing an amenities that are new to the area. After that starts to happen, more higher level amenities are brought in to service the new higher income residents. At that point the neighborhood has local "buzz". Smaller local developers (and maybe some larger national developers) are investing in the area. The hipsters that haven't moved into the "young professional" categories are priced out and move somewhere else. Either a cheaper Brooklyn neighborhood or out to other cities that are reinventing themselves - like Pittsburgh, Oakland, or Portland.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 6/6/17 at 6:04 pm to kingbob
My town is now known in some circles as Brooklyn south, we have had a couple of barber shop open, a seafood shop, now I could really go for the butcher
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:03 pm to hobotiger
You live in Ashville?
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