Spin Off From Sex With Teacher Threads

I wonder what the average male charges were compared to the average female charge

Do we not hear about the guy teachers sleeping with female students because that's officially pervy?

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The problem? We are paying the bottom rung to watch and teach our children. Which is a catastrophe

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Piss off, Mr. Generalization. Also "which is a catastrophe" is a fragment.

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We are paying the bottom rung to watch and teach our children.

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Disagree. Life happens. People change. shite goes down.

By all accounts, the gal in Baton Rouge was a decent enough person with a college degree. How is that "the bottom rung"? How is the school supposed to know that things would turn out this way? There may have been signs that they could have seen as time progressed, but the point is that even those above the "bottom rung" can have issues.

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Also "which is a catastrophe" is a fragment.

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No shite. Perhaps you should also learn to quote. Your sentence should have read: "[a]lso, '[w]hich is a catastrophe' is a fragment."

arse.

And you cannot tell me that we are getting the bottom rung when I knew the people going into education majors. These people were borderline able to get into college.

Don't get me wrong, there are those teachers who are very good and, like TigernMS12's wife, are intelligent and thoughtful individuals who have a calling to teach.

But if we want to attract the best teachers to teach at the high school and lower levels, we need to (a) pay them, and (b) reduce the stigma associated with them being glorified babysitters.

And we should probably screen them for deviancy or something. I don't know. Seems like there is a problem.

Yes, 800 incidents out of probably a million or more educators is a small percentage, but that's still a large amount given the severity of the crime, imo.

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The problem? We are paying the bottom rung to watch and teach our children. Which is a catastrophe.

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Interesting take with some truth.

By far the easiest major at any college is the straight up Education degree, which is needed to be a teacher in most states. Educational Admin degrees are a little more rigorous, but aren't Engineering by any means.

I have a proposal that will get the lower rung out of our schools AND better the education.

Get rid of the education degree. Yep.

If you want to teach Biology, get a Biology degree. If you want to teach Math, get a Math degree. A major requires 36 hours in most instances. When you major in education, you get 36 hours of bullshite - I remember elementary ed major friends at LSU stressing over decorating a bulletin board for the final project. You currently take about 12 hours in your discipline. Its possible to be a certified math teacher without taking Calculus.

Reverse that crap. 36 hours of the actual major, 12 hours of classroom management, educational psych and such.

You'd get more qualified teachers and you'd weed out the pieces of shite that are getting education degrees.

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If you want to teach Biology, get a Biology degree. If you want to teach Math, get a Math degree.

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Disagree here too. Just because you are great at something doesn't mean you can teach it. I had several professors and teachers in school who were clearly very intelligent and knowledgable about their subject matter yet couldn't communicate it worth a shite. There is a certain art-form to teaching that can be taught in college.

And I think LTM makes a good point. Low-paying jobs generally attract applicants of a lower socioeconomic status, and people of those classes show higher statistical correlations to criminal/trashy behavior.

Increasing pay/educational requirements would result in more thorough screening/hiring processes, which would better protect students.

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If you want to teach Biology, get a Biology degree. If you want to teach Math, get a Math degree. A major requires 36 hours in most instances. When you major in education, you get 36 hours of bullshite - I remember elementary ed major friends at LSU stressing over decorating a bulletin board for the final project. You currently take about 12 hours in your discipline. Its possible to be a certified math teacher without taking Calculus.

Reverse that crap. 36 hours of the actual major, 12 hours of classroom management, educational psych and such.

You'd get more qualified teachers and you'd weed out the pieces of shite that are getting education degrees.

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Not a bad idea at all. Emphasize the subject matter, but still get the person exposure to the act of teaching.

But I have an even better suggestion: stop allowing people into college that are borderline able to get in in the first place. Too many damn college graduates as it is. Most of which can't get employment and are in debt up to their eye balls because they barely squeaked into college in the first place. Bad for everybody.

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And I think LTM makes a good point. Low-paying jobs generally attract applicants of a lower socioeconomic status, and people of those classes show higher statistical correlations to criminal/trashy behavior.

Increasing pay/educational requirements would result in more thorough screening/hiring processes, which would better protect students.

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Totally true. More pay/high standards= more higher quality applicants. There will be more applicants in general, but raising the bar will get better people. The lazy HR Dept will just have to screen more. And yes, HR Dept's are lazy.