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re: Speed Limit on Staring Lane

Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:33 pm to
What I want to know is how the speed effects people throwing trash out of their windows? I mean the noise issue I get...I think it's a bullshite excuse because the street was plenty loud before it was widened and was loud during construction but I understand it as an arguement. The people throwing trash are going to do it if the speed limit is 20 and are gonna do it if the speed limit is 60
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:33 pm to
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I'm genuinely interested.
I was trying to find out if Staring Lane is designated a Louisiana state highway. Wiki says it's LA 425, but I don't know if I should trust that. There isn't anything on the GLP's website that says how the road is designated.

If Staring Lane was 35 MPH before the widening, they'll definitely design it at a greater speed (I joked about that earlier because the projects I've worked on have all outlived my 9 years in the design phase, so all I know is design speed and not posted speed...you're right, in school and in practice the design speed is supposed to be greater than the posted speed). The City/Parish likely tried to post the speed higher than 35 MPH given the new widened roadway and increased capacity that will handle the design and future demands (these are projections...educated guesses...out to 2019 and 2030).

The problem with Staring is that homes front the road, not entrances to neighborhoods. I get the lower speed limit, but this is a Baton Rouge problem and not necessarily a design problem. Rather, a Baton Rouge planning problem.

Staring is residential, however it's now an essential link to the interstate. And it will be even more so when it's extended to Nicholson/LA 30.

State highways are usually designated by the State as a certain classification. Not all classifications are created equal. There are rural and urban classifications of freeways, highways, arterials, collectors...all with different speed limits based on ADT. You probably know this, you seem kinda engineery. That's what governs Staring's design speed from the engineering side.
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 3:34 pm
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:34 pm to
I wasnt talking to him.

so no i will not frick off.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:34 pm to
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You probably know this, you seem kinda engineery.




quote:

The problem with Staring is that homes front the road, not entrances to neighborhoods. I get the lower speed limit, but this is a Baton Rouge problem and not necessarily a design problem. Rather, a Baton Rouge planning problem.


All that.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:35 pm to
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Between I10 and Jefferson you halfwit, and those also aren't on Bluebonnet.


Nice crawfish attempt. Let's take a trip down memory lane and revisit your universal language shall we?



Posted by mikelbr
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:35 pm to
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Staring is residential, however it's now an essential link to the interstate. And it will be even more so when it's extended to Nicholson/LA 30.


The dilemma comes in cost-benefit. To raise speed limit 10mph they would either
1. buy and destroy all those homes along staring or
2. completely change the neighborhood design of most of them houses by making their front yards fenced in and creating alley way drives (like you see in Plano,tx along these highways).

We fricked. 35 it is.
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 3:37 pm
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:36 pm to
Looks like I was right

Now who needs to frick off?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:37 pm to
How nice of you to ignore the entire conversation and take stuff out of context. Good job with the screen caps though.

Take a look at that second cap. Notice how the quote I was responding to explicitly says from 10 to jefferson.
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 3:39 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:37 pm to
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Looks like I was right



Agreeing with unknown should be your first sign you may have fricked up.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:37 pm to
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How nice of you to ignore the entire conversation


Seems like you are the one doing that.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:38 pm to
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The dilemma comes in cost-benefit. To raise speed limit 10mph they would either
1. buy and destroy all those homes along staring or
2. completely change the neighborhood design of them making their front yards fenced in and creating alley way drives (like you see in Plano,tx along these highways).

We fricked. 35 it is.
The design speed can be changed, but there needs to be a need for it. And the decision needs to be backed by engineering.

That's why the road is designed at 45 MPH...in the event that the speed limit needs to be raised, the road will be safely designed for it.

However, what it entails for that to happen through the residential area, is another thing.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:39 pm to
I don't speed on Staring, but I am gonna be pissed when I have friends coming over and one gets a speeding ticket for going 45 on a raod that should be 45.

Totally agree that it is unsafe for it to be only 35.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:39 pm to
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Seems like you are the one doing that.


Funny he hasn't caught on to that yet
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:39 pm to
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Totally agree that it is unsafe for it to be only 35.
Wait, how is it unsafe to go 35 MPH as opposed to 45 MPH?
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:40 pm to
Some people are just slower than they should be. Kinda like this whole speed limit debate
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:40 pm to
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Funny he hasn't caught on to that yet


You haven't done anything but further cement your reputation as being one of the village idiots.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:40 pm to
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Seems like you are the one doing that.


Oh man. this is stupid. North of I10. The OLD bluebonnet road DOES have houses touching it. The re-routed Bluebonnet Blvd does not. The new Blvd isn't residential. Sad but true. fricking lawyers.

Yall stop fighting like kids. I'll turn this damned car around and go straight home. No Blue Bayou. No Cane's.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:41 pm to
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Seems like you are the one doing that.


Everyone I was actually conversing with came around to what I said. So, I'm gonna go with no on that.

Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:41 pm to
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Wait, how is it unsafe to go 35 MPH as opposed to 45 MPH?


Because people will speed on this road because you don't feel like you are speeding going 50. No amount of signs will stop that. So you have people going 35 and people going 50, bad shite happens. A safe road is a raod where everyone wants to go the same speed.

Its not about going 35 vs going 45. Its about hte limit being 35 vs 45...

People will go 50 on this road whether the limit is 35 or 45 cause 50 feels reasonable. I catch myself going 50 all the time on it by accident not even trying to go fast for any reason.
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 3:43 pm
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47525 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 3:42 pm to
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However, what it entails for that to happen through the residential area, is another thing.


Exactly. Far too late to try and make people move out them houses now. They should have done that before it was expanded. Like I said. 35mph it is and will be.
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