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Somebody's got to rethink the car dealership model

Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:47 am
Posted by Honky Lips
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:47 am
Car dealerships are one of the most dreaded places on earth. People love getting a new car but hate process of actually being at the dealership. Salesmen come across like parasites and the decision makers usually never face the customers. Instead it's rounds of "let me go talk to my Manager."

Eventually some smart guy is going to completely rethink the car buying model and revolutionize the industry. Sort of like Apple did with their stores. They made the buying process enjoyable.
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:48 am to
Tesla
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:48 am to
Insert a picture of the truecar guy here.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16867 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:49 am to
Buying furniture is more stressful than buying a car IMO. So much variance in quality and style.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
65714 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:49 am to
Boy, if only there was an alternative like TrueCar.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
17138 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:50 am to
Tesla tried and ran into roadblocks with state lobbying organizations that protect the dealer/franchise model

Saturn tried the whole menu ordering system with flat prices at first only to find the american market to be set in their haggling ways
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 11:05 am
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5479 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:50 am to
Only OT poors go to the lot. I got my 2018 Tahoe fully customized online.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59673 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:51 am to
I have walked in with a cashiers check and tell them what I want this is what I have to spend. they either take it or leave it. I also have told them don't bother calling until you get this exact vehichle for this price.


I have never been had or wasted a day at a dealer
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:53 am to
quote:

Instead it's rounds of "let me go talk to my Manager."


I haven't had any experiences like that with my last several purchases. The proliferation of internet sales has made that pretty obsolete IMO. It's fairly easy to research what a good price for a new vehicle is and obtaining it without ever setting foot in the dealership.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:56 am to
Some are bad and some are tolerable. Brian Harris Audi wasn't a total headache to deal with.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101468 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:56 am to
Come up with a reasonable drop dead price you will pay for the car you want and go get it. Let them know from the get-go you're not there to dick around.

I've been in and out of the dealer in less than an hour on the last two cars I bought.
Posted by Honky Lips
Member since Dec 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:56 am to
I would like to see a system where salesmen are eliminated altogether. Instead the dealership would have some specialists (like at an Apple store) who walk around and answer any questions you have. I'm talking people educated in mechanics and familiar with the cars...Salesmen usually don't know crap about the cars they are selling. Then when you're ready to buy, you sit down directly with the person you negotiate with. Not a "wait 10 minutes while I go talk to my Manager" situation.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 10:59 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:56 am to
congrats on the TT susie
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:57 am to
quote:

'm talking people educated in mechanics and familiar with the cars...Salesmen usually don't know crap about the cars they are selling.


my biggest issue.

ford guy in shreveport told me ford doesn't make a 6.2L v8

I told him to leave me alone.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48942 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Apple did with their stores. They made the buying process enjoyable.



I would like to visit one, the AT&T store is an absolutely dreadful experience.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:00 am to
quote:

I would like to see a system where salesmen are eliminated altogether. Instead the dealership would have some specialists (like at an Apple store) who are there to answer any questions you have. I'm talking people educated in mechanics and familiar with the cars...Salesmen usually don't know crap about the cars they are selling. Then when you're ready to buy, you sit down directly with the person you negotiate with. Not a "wait 10 minutes while I go talk to my Manager" situation.



Why the y obsession with the "apple store" model. I'd rather put a bullet in my head than have to go to an Apple store. Even with an appointment it takes forever to accomplish anything.

Not to mention, how are you going to make that comparisonthat when new car dealers have to take trade ins? There isn't very much comparable between car dealers and Apple stores.
Posted by Honky Lips
Member since Dec 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:02 am to
I'm just using it as an example. I'm not saying that the car buying process needs to mimic apple. What I am saying is that the whole car buying process needs to go back to the drawing board
Posted by LSUrme
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:02 am to
I feel like having internet salesmen for each dealership has cut down on this BS.

Tell them what you want, see what the lowest price is, compare with others in the region - done.
Posted by bigrob385series
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Member since May 2014
2634 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:02 am to
They won't ever change, esp. with people steady buying new cars...why would they?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84124 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:03 am to
quote:

What I am saying is that the whole car buying process needs to go back to the drawing board


For what you're suggesting to work, there;d have to be many more decision makers to be available to the customers. I don't think it's particularly feasible.

One way that might help would be if you limit the options on vehicles so they aren't as many prices and values they need to keep up with, but who would really want that?
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