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Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:18 pm to PurpleNGoldFan
Pretty much everywhere. People chanted "Goldberg" at him (still do) and at a show in Australia he went off and started chanting "RY-BACK, RY-BACK" and in another match he even used Goldberg's old finisher. He reminds me of Mike Tyson in a lot of ways -- very easy to get inside his head. A few weeks ago he tweeted that he was taking some time off because he "hasn't been right in a while" but the tweet was quickly deleted. He's got some issues, no doubt.
In response to other posters -- I really like the Bad News Barrett gimmick as well... IF he could just stop getting injured!!
Ambrose reminds me of a young Roddy Piper. I personally think he's a natural maniacal heel (and he definitely has the background for it) but he seems to be doing just fine as a face.
In response to other posters -- I really like the Bad News Barrett gimmick as well... IF he could just stop getting injured!!
Ambrose reminds me of a young Roddy Piper. I personally think he's a natural maniacal heel (and he definitely has the background for it) but he seems to be doing just fine as a face.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:20 pm to PurpleNGoldFan
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So what exactly happened
Go watch Brett Hart's documentary. It's fantastic.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:22 pm to sportsaddit68
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have the WWE champ never fight in a singles match on raw or smack down. Give promos, build story line, but you gotta pay to see the champ in action. Maybe just give him a tag warm up match or something on the going home show before PPV
Interesting idea. The buildup to title matches is way too repetitive these days. The challenger seems to beat the champ in a nontitle match or in a tag match before the PPV. Instead of building interest toward the match, they're basically killing the payoff for the feud before the feud ends. I remember when flair or hogan wrestled on free TV, it was a big deal, even if the opponent was George South.
They are kind of bringing back this element, albeit out of necessity due to Lesnar's contract.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:25 pm to PurpleNGoldFan
yeah i haven't watched consistently in almost 15 years at this point. Every once in awhile i give it another shot but it's just not the same. CM Punk was the one guy I would tune in to watch on a regular basis but after awhile they started using him so poorly that i started to fade. I actually bought the royal rumble pay per view this past year in the hopes he would win it and headline WM 30 in NOLA but obviously that didn't happen and he left the company. I haven't watched since and I can't see myself giving it another try anytime in the foreseeable future. Even if they finally bring in Sting it would be too little, too late.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:27 pm to Grassy1
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Maybe you just grew up?
No. I've watched Documentaries and old fights and past wrestlemanias. I still do every once in a while. It used to be a billion times better. Go watch original undertaker fights then watch him as American Badass. Look at what Kane used to be. There was just something about wrestling. Maybe it was the talent they had or the guys really tried to sell it, but no one in today's show can match the character and intensity and sportsmanship and quality of guys like Mankind, Hogan, Scott Hall, the NWO, Sting, The Rock, Triple H, DX, DDP, RMJ, Stone Cold, etc...
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:29 pm to Breesus
The guys you mentioned all had something that today's wrestlers lack: charisma, and an ability to connect with the fans. These guys nowadays just go through the motions. Not to mention things were a lot wilder during the Attitude Era -- fans and wrestlers alike were able to say and do a lot more.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:33 pm to Draven
I think having every promo scripted and done in the ring takes away from the product as well, as opposed to the old timers who could cut a killer promo off the cuff.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:33 pm to Draven
I can remember watching wrestling and when you'd hear the nwo music you'd flip your shite. When the lights went out and the bell tolled you lost your mind. When the glass shattered and someone got stunnered it's all anyone talked about the next day.
Charisma is a good word. No one seems to have it. Also, the stories aren't good. NWO was phenomenal. Remember when the rumors were that undertaker burned Kane's fave with acid and killed their family as a kid? shite like that doesn't exist in today's wrestling. It's a bummer.
Charisma is a good word. No one seems to have it. Also, the stories aren't good. NWO was phenomenal. Remember when the rumors were that undertaker burned Kane's fave with acid and killed their family as a kid? shite like that doesn't exist in today's wrestling. It's a bummer.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:34 pm to Draven
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The guys you mentioned all had something that today's wrestlers lack: charisma, and an ability to connect with the fans.
i don't think they lack the ability so much as they aren't taught the way they used to be in the old days and also the onus was much more on them to develop their characters and their promos themselves. Today the creative team gives them their lines and they have to just go out and recite them.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:34 pm to Ric Flair
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think having every promo scripted and done in the ring takes away from the product as well, as opposed to the old timers who could cut a killer promo off the cuff.
Completely agree with this as well. You used to watch athletes who were so ingrained into their characters they were almost real. They went off the cuff and sold themselves.
If you watch Brett Hart's documentary you see how upset he was when his character changed and how he begged for input on his story lines. The guy's today, not totally their fault, just seem to be playing a role instead of living it.
Now it's athletes reciting lines and played out bullshite stories. And stupid fights that mean nothing.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Yeah yall beat me too it.
This
And this
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I remember when flair or hogan wrestled on free TV, it was a big deal, even if the opponent was George South.
This
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i don't think they lack the ability so much as they aren't taught the way they used to be in the old days and also the onus was much more on them to develop their characters and their promos themselves. Today the creative team gives them their lines and they have to just go out and recite them.
And this
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:49 pm to Breesus
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The TV shows nowadays are nothing but filler between ppvs, so they're not even worth watching. Back during the WWF/WCW Monday Night wars, both sides were working their tails off to put forth their absolute best product week after week in an attempt to outdo one another. With the demise of WCW, that passion doesn't exist anymore
Reading this and remembering how awesome it used to be and how that's all we talked about on the school yard depressed the shite out of me. If the undertaker appeared in a match it's literally all we'd talk about for a week.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:57 pm to Breesus
Midcard fueds on nitro ruled. Jericho vs Malenko comes to mind, as well as other talents like DDP, Raven, etc. Seems like the midcard these days doesn't take the time to develop decent feuds.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:00 pm to Ric Flair
You guys are forgetting the absolute pandemonium that was the live ECW events.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:02 pm to lsucoonass
Haven't watched since NITRO went off the air.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:02 pm to Kracka
I went to an ECW show at the river center ballroom in I think 1998. There was about 2,000 people packed in there. It was next level bananas.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:07 pm to Ric Flair
quote:This This this! They were awesome feuds back then. I loved the Glacier and Mortis feud, Jarrett and McMicheal feud, and the endless battles for the TV title.
Midcard fueds on nitro ruled. Jericho vs Malenko comes to mind, as well as other talents like DDP, Raven, etc. Seems like the midcard these days doesn't take the time to develop decent feuds.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I've never experienced anything like it. The only thing I can equate it to would be a prison riot.
Tommy Dreamer and The Sandman FTW.
Tommy Dreamer and The Sandman FTW.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 10:09 pm
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