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re: Solution to Baton Rouge and surrounding parish traffic
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:44 am to Lickitty Split
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:44 am to Lickitty Split
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:48 am to Lickitty Split
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Solution
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tax
Rarely is that a solution to anything.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:45 am to Lickitty Split
People do realize that higher tolls against 18 wheelers just get passed along to the final price of final goods, right? Look at the shipping costs of commodities in the northeast in comparison to the southeast - one big f'ing reason is the amount of tolls the dumbshit politicians keep passing on trucking companies thinking that's solving the problem, but guess what? That $100 toll to cross the George Washington Bridge on i95 in NYC gets passed to the receiver, then down the logistics chain to the final customer. Every damned freeway up there is tolled coupled with much higher taxes on diesel and they can't figure out why a small box of cereal is $8.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:49 am to Lickitty Split
Do you have any idea of how large the cluster frick would be at a toll booth on that bridge? Hell traffic backs up for miles just because of the merge at the 110-10 split 
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:04 am to Loungefly85
Solution move to a better city
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:07 am to Passing Wind
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toll booth
Most states are starting to move to toll tag readers or pay by plate. The bridges going from Louisville to Indiana are all tolled as on Jan 2017 and not a single booth was installed. Louisiana has the Geaux Pass, and I'm sure if something like that were to be set up then they'd bring EZ Pass on board as well.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 9:09 am
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:14 am to Passing Wind
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Do you have any idea of how large the cluster frick would be at a toll booth on that bridge?
For whatever cluster it may be, would still be a huge upgrade to the cluster it is now.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:18 am to Macfly
quote:This should be SOP anyway, regardless of troubleshooting traffic problems. It tells you how fricking backwards this state is, in regards to infrastructure.
Fixing the potholes, ruts and surfaces on existing roads and synchronizing the lights would go a long way to moving traffic efficiently.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:25 am to Lickitty Split
The answer to funding a new bridge like this is a P3 project, but due to the corrupt nature of our politicians that would be an absolute failure here.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:37 am to Lickitty Split
How much of that does Silky Slim get?
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:48 am to Lickitty Split
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 10:24 am
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:50 am to Lickitty Split
If fine with the toll bridge but screw new taxes 
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:55 am to Lickitty Split
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Pass a local 10 cent gas tax in all four or five parishes majorly affected affected by the Miss. bridge. Build the new bridge between west Baton Rouge and Iberville. All cars registered in the four or five parishes get to use the bridge free of toll with their parish pass. All other vehicles using the bridge will have to pay a $3 for a regular sized vehicle, $6 for anything hauling basic trailer, $10 for all 18 wheelers each way.
Based on my random projections of 14,000 regular vehicles, 1,500 vehicles over the basic vehicle load, and 2,000 18 wheelers, we'd collect over $518,000,000 in tolls in 20 years. (There are estimates that 25,000 to 30,000 vehicles would use this bridge)These numbers represent paying customers. For reference, approximately 107,000 people a day were crossing the "new" bridge in 2005. That's probably increased by about 13,000 since totaling 120,000. I estimate roughly 20-25% of traffic would use this toll including the "free riders."
Add approximately $365,000,000 in gas taxes and now we are at $883,000,000 over twenty years. This would be more than enough to woo enough federal dollars to build the damn thing. Make sure we name the bridge after me too.
Hey I got a good idea. How about a Baton Rouge Loop?
Someone should do a study on that... LMAO!
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:19 am to Lickitty Split
You are new around here... let me explain how this works in LA (and this message board).
1) All taxes are evil and theft. No one wants to pay any taxes for everything.
2) People demand all sorts of better schools, roads, etc.
3) Since they won't pay for it, the only option is for the feds to give us money.
4) People demand that the federal government be cut.
In all honesty a gas tax of 10 cents per gallon will mean that people that live on the edge of the tax district will go outside the district to fill up.
I think it's going to have to be a toll. You could use the Causeway model where toll tags get a cheaper rate, which should help the locals. Everyone could pay cash or do a toll-by-plate system.
1) All taxes are evil and theft. No one wants to pay any taxes for everything.
2) People demand all sorts of better schools, roads, etc.
3) Since they won't pay for it, the only option is for the feds to give us money.
4) People demand that the federal government be cut.
In all honesty a gas tax of 10 cents per gallon will mean that people that live on the edge of the tax district will go outside the district to fill up.
I think it's going to have to be a toll. You could use the Causeway model where toll tags get a cheaper rate, which should help the locals. Everyone could pay cash or do a toll-by-plate system.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:29 am to Muice
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The answer to funding a new bridge like this is a P3 project,
This is the only way a new bridge will get built. Using traditional Fed/State funding, the state share would be in the range of an entire year of allocated bridge funding INCLUDING the federal share.
According to the OP, we could raise $800M over 20 years with his plan. That would not fund a project to build a new bridge with approach highways if we had it today. Apply simple inflation for 20 years and you're chasing a carrot at the end of a stick.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:40 am to Lickitty Split
Every gas station within 5 miles if I-10 should have a $0.10/gallon charge. This should be directly tied to the future expansion of I-10 and I-12, including the bridge in Lake Charles, Basin bridge, freeway decking in Baton Rouge, high rise between Kenner and LaPlace, etc.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:51 am to LSUFanHouston
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let me explain how this works in LA
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No one wants to pay any taxes for everything.
huh? we don't want to keep passing tax hikes only to see the money not used for what it was proposed for
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People demand all sorts of better schools, roads, etc.
I would rather see a better return for the taxes collected. I thought gambling and the lottery were suppose to fix a lot of issues? is that money being used responsibly?
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4) People demand that the federal government be cut.
most that want this also want state governments cut
Bottom line is we are leery of tax increases because we don't trust that they are being used appropriately. The state needs to make better use of the money. Hell almost every time they complain about a budget shortfall the politicians vote to give themselves raises.
ETA- ever wonder why dems love raising axes and republicans don't?
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 10:54 am
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:52 am to Lickitty Split
City gave away prime land
Probably not give money (see link above) away and use it for roads.
Close down Council on Aging.
Not give away money in BRAVE contracts.
Lots of things we can do to close the gap.
Probably not give money (see link above) away and use it for roads.
Close down Council on Aging.
Not give away money in BRAVE contracts.
Lots of things we can do to close the gap.
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