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re: So Did Michael Brown Have His Hands Up Or Not?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:35 pm to PuntBamaPunt
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:35 pm to PuntBamaPunt
quote:True.
It likely would have been ruled justified from what I've read and they still would have rioted then, but at least the system would have worked.
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:35 pm to PuntBamaPunt
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It likely would have been ruled justified from what I've read and they still would have rioted then, but at least the system would have worked.
A grand jury inquiry isn't part of "the system"?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:37 pm to LuckyTiger
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OK so we have different eye witness accounts. What about the autopsy findings and ballistics reports? Did they offer any compelling info?
I think the only thing that can be concluded from the autopsy as far as that is concerned is that the gun was fired in the car, that Browns hands were in the car in close enough proximity to the gun to receive powder burns from it during that shot, and they the bullet wounds to his arm were probably not made while his hands were over head in surrender
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:40 pm to KBeezy
The reason they came up with that is because there was an entrance wound to the backside of forearm. Most people in surrender would show you their palms so and entrance wound In that scenario would be on the underside of the forearm
That wound and the bullet graze would to his hand were likely a result of the weapon being discharged twice within the police vehicle during the initial tussle
That wound and the bullet graze would to his hand were likely a result of the weapon being discharged twice within the police vehicle during the initial tussle
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:41 pm to KBeezy
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I think the only thing that can be concluded from the autopsy as far as that is concerned is that the gun was fired in the car, that Browns hands were in the car in close enough proximity to the gun to receive powder burns from it during that shot, and they the bullet wounds to his arm were probably not made while his hands were over head in surrender
This seems to completely refute the story version of him on his knees with his hands up begging for his life.
It also seems to almost completely refute that he was standing with his hands up.
So the evidence overwhelmingly tends to show that Brown was engaged with the officer in hand to hand fighting while the officer was inside his car. Is this the case?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:42 pm to texashorn
Not how it was conducted in this case. It's obvious they did a halfassed job and put it on the GJ instead of pushing for an indictment. The purpose of the GJ is not to decide which witnesses are credible and which ones are not. It's further complicated by the fact that cops are rarely indicted for killing a civilian which is due to a number of factors on it's own.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:45 pm to LuckyTiger
For the most part, and I mean overwhelmingly so, the initial tussle with brown fighting with the officer inside the cop truck and the initial shots are not at all in question
Neighbors, passers by, friends, and just about everyone who saw it admit that there was something going on at the officers window during the initial volley of gunfire
The questions are aboot what happens when brown ran away and Wilson gets out of his cruiser
Neighbors, passers by, friends, and just about everyone who saw it admit that there was something going on at the officers window during the initial volley of gunfire
The questions are aboot what happens when brown ran away and Wilson gets out of his cruiser
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:46 pm to PuntBamaPunt
bullshite. I hate to break it to you, but "justice" sometimes involves dropping charges.
A DA isn't sworn to gain convictions, he or she is sworn to uphold the law (justice).
A DA isn't sworn to gain convictions, he or she is sworn to uphold the law (justice).
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:46 pm to KBeezy
Gotcha. Thanks for the straight no BS info.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:47 pm to texashorn
He should have nutted up and declined to press charges instead of how he handled it.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:48 pm to KBeezy
The most credible witness to me seems to be witness #10
He was there before the cop pulled up, noticed mike and his friend at that time, saw the initial exchange of words, saw the fight, saw brown run away, saw the exchange that led to his death, and stuck around to hear the re-telling of events from the neighbors.
He was also not from the area, so had no ties to the neighborhood or to brown. He was a worker doing some work in the area
He was there before the cop pulled up, noticed mike and his friend at that time, saw the initial exchange of words, saw the fight, saw brown run away, saw the exchange that led to his death, and stuck around to hear the re-telling of events from the neighbors.
He was also not from the area, so had no ties to the neighborhood or to brown. He was a worker doing some work in the area
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:49 pm to KBeezy
Video shows the only thing held up was a Indian grocer .
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:50 pm to PuntBamaPunt
Are you kidding? Just make an announcement that no charges would be filed, with absolutely no testimony or citizen inquiry (the grand jury)? How is that better?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:51 pm to KBeezy
His account of the aftermath is very telling of how this stuff gets spun out of control.
He heard friends of brown who he didn't see there running around telling everyone who wanted to listen that Brown was executed.
He then started hearing the people complain and preach that story like it was gospel.
His sentiment was basically that "I argued with a few people because I saw it go down and what they were saying absolutely did not happen. Then I thought it better if I just shut my mouth and got out of that neighborhood because I could see it was turning on me."
He heard friends of brown who he didn't see there running around telling everyone who wanted to listen that Brown was executed.
He then started hearing the people complain and preach that story like it was gospel.
His sentiment was basically that "I argued with a few people because I saw it go down and what they were saying absolutely did not happen. Then I thought it better if I just shut my mouth and got out of that neighborhood because I could see it was turning on me."
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:52 pm to texashorn
he didn't do his job as is, why bother?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:52 pm to LuckyTiger
Probably so.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:54 pm to PuntBamaPunt
His "job" isn't to whitewash or railroad somebody into a true bill and subsequent trial, regardless of the facts.
That is what you are pushing for.
That is what you are pushing for.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:56 pm to texashorn
You need to revisit the purpose of a grand jury. Ask SFP.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:58 pm to PuntBamaPunt
Give us the reasoning for a grand jury, in a nutshell.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:58 pm to LuckyTiger
It's illegal to shoot someone who has their hands up. Nobody was arrested for shooting Michael brown. Logic=no he didn't have his hands up.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 6:59 pm
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