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TheOcean
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Apple is seeking more than $2.5 billion and a sales ban based on small subset of features it claims are in great demand among consumers. A verdict in Apple's favor would put large swaths of the smartphone industry at risk of similar legal troubles.


After owning a couple of Ipads I will officially never be purchasing another Apple product again. They can go frick themselves. And yes, I'm mad.
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Or just copy the original and sell for a little bit less. Why even put forth the effort to become the first when you can just sit back and copy the first and get rich?


Welcome to business management. Substitutions is a legitimate part of the business world.

Don't want to pay $6 for Cheerios? Pay $4 for Circle-O's. Don't want to spend $10 on Claritin? Spend $5 on Walitin. Don't want to spend $80k on a BMW? Spend $40k on a Hyundai Genesis.

Shall I go on? It's the way of the world. Permanent patents frick up the natural ebb and flow of industries. Apple has been successful despite any substitutions because they marketed their brand successfully and developed cult like loyalty. They are either beginning to struggle or are getting greedy. I imagine it's both.


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Samsung is not doing this. Why? Because AMerican car manufacturers tried it for decades and failed. Hence, we know this strategy doesn't work.


We're talking about a $200 phone not a $30,000 vehicle. And I'm quite certain that it works.


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re: Slide from Apple's closing arguments against Samsung.
Remember when Apple was going to allow a Mac clone and then pulled the plug on them at the last minute?

Apple uses smart marketing to lead to a perception of superiority but their products are always slower and more restrictive than their counterparts.

And again, if anything GE is ripping off Samsung.



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Teddy Ruxpin
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re: Slide from Apple's closing arguments against Samsung.
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We're talking about a $200 phone not a $30,000 vehicle. And I'm quite certain that it works.


If your certain, I would love to hear the evidence.

Also, the price of an object is immaterial. Price is only what consumers are willing to pay, it has no basis on the ability to copy said product or anything about the product at all besides how important society sees the product.

So really, we should be wondering why anyone gives a frick over $200 items.
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Welcome to business management


This.

Actually, this is an interesting subject for me, because I have presentation due at the end of the semester where I have to innovate/improve the iphone.


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Why do you support a bunch of Koreans over an American company?


who make all their shite in Japan...


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GRTiger
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I have to innovate/improve the iphone.


Unpossible!


Just change the color of an indicator light from green to turquoise or red to orange and you'll sell 10 million over the debut weekend.


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LSUFAN2005
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Point is they all look like that now after Apple introduced the iPhone. They sure as heck didn;t look that before.



Somebody gets it.


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Somebody gets it.


Image: http://www.pdareviews.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/palmone-m500-pda.jpg


same design concepts (just without advanced graphics or solor) for program selection


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re: Slide from Apple's closing arguments against Samsung.
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Just like Apple invented multi touch, pinch-to-zoom, the mp3 player, smartphone, and tablet

Well at least they came up with name "iPhone" all by themselves.

Wait, no. That's wrong.


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Teddy Ruxpin
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same design concepts (just without advanced graphics or solor) for program selection


That device is clearly from the future and in a time where Apple has decided (innovating of course) that color is no longer necessary and then that "Palm" company or whatever copied it.

How you got your hands on that thing without a Delorean is beyond me.
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TigerGman
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Is that a phone?


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GRTiger
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Somebody gets it.


Let's ignore the arguments posited that poke holes in the theory that Apple is the one and only innovator in the smart phone industry. Let's say they are the epitome of invention, and all others simply copy their remarkable achievements.

How is this bad to anyone but Apple? They are effectively trying to use the courts to eliminate substitutes, use the courts to eliminate the threat of new entrants to the market, decrease buyer power, and significantly reduce the motivation for more innovation.

Sounds like a great environment for only one participant of the market, themselves. No thanks. As a consumer, I prefer competition.


crimsonsaint
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re: Slide from Apple's closing arguments against Samsung.
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If your certain, I would love to hear the evidence.


Would you like a link to Samsung's website?

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Also, the price of an object is immaterial.


Right, because whether you're spending $200 or $30,000 is irrelevant to an OT baller consumer. Likewise a manufacturer doesn't distinguish the risk between a $200 product and a $30,000 product.

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So really, we should be wondering why anyone gives a frick over $200 items.


If you make umpteen billions off a $200 product I'd think you'd give a frick.


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After owning a couple of Ipads I will officially never be purchasing another Apple product again. They can go frick themselves. And yes, I'm mad.




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bbrownso
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re: Slide from Apple's closing arguments against Samsung.
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They fricked Sony in their intrusion into the HDTV space by copying them.

How so? I've heard that Sony basically screwed themselves over in the television market.


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TigerGman
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re: Slide from Apple's closing arguments against Samsung.
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and significantly reduce the motivation for more innovation.


Seriously though--how do you see allowing copying as an incentive for innovation? You allow copying you have one company innovate and 5 copy it (like Samsung is doing very successfully).

On the other hand you frown on copying you have 6 companies innovating and more choice for the consumer. Like Microsoft, their phone OS may not be selling worth a chit but it is certainly innovative and different.


Teddy Ruxpin
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re: Slide from Apple's closing arguments against Samsung.
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Would you like a link to Samsung's website?


Not evidence of anything.

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Right, because whether you're spending $200 or $30,000 is irrelevant to an OT baller consumer. Likewise a manufacturer doesn't distinguish the risk between a $200 product and a $30,000 product.


You mentioned the price as if it mattered when it comes to copying a product. As if it was material to the discussion of what could be or not be copied effectively. Don't change the argument to "win" it.

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If you make umpteen billions off a $200 product I'd think you'd give a frick.


Well, too late, you already carried it to the conclusion you weren't purporting in your earlier post.


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Ric Flair
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re: Slide from Apple's closing arguments against Samsung.
So why does apple get to sue, but Cheerios can't sue generic cereal makers making "circle o's" that look and almost taste identical? Why hasn't Walmart gotten sued for "Dr. Thunder" which uses the same doctor monicker, same colored can, and tries to replicate the taste of Dr. Pepper?


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