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Should I reach out to hiring manager who is also an acquaintance of my boss?
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:24 pm
I'll try to make this short. There's a very specific position I have been trying to land for a couple of years now and it's the position I've always wanted to work myself into. This particular position doesn't open very often, especially not in my area.
One of the 3 companies I'd prefer to work for just opened the position locally and I happen to know the hiring manager, we exchanged text messages just last week. However, he doesn't know I'm interested in this career jump. I never told him because he goes to church with the owner of the company I work for now.
Should I reach out to this guy knowing that he will likely say something to my boss? My boss knows this position is where I want to land, I've been very open with him about that. I also suspect that my boss would put in a good work for me if that guy were to mention it to him. I'm not in a position where my boss would fire me if he found out,but it's still uncomfortable ground for me.
Any of you ever been in a similar spot? I don't want to give up on my goals out of fear that my boss will find out, but I also don't want to disrespect him. He's been very good to me and it's not a bridge I'd ever want to burn.
One of the 3 companies I'd prefer to work for just opened the position locally and I happen to know the hiring manager, we exchanged text messages just last week. However, he doesn't know I'm interested in this career jump. I never told him because he goes to church with the owner of the company I work for now.
Should I reach out to this guy knowing that he will likely say something to my boss? My boss knows this position is where I want to land, I've been very open with him about that. I also suspect that my boss would put in a good work for me if that guy were to mention it to him. I'm not in a position where my boss would fire me if he found out,but it's still uncomfortable ground for me.
Any of you ever been in a similar spot? I don't want to give up on my goals out of fear that my boss will find out, but I also don't want to disrespect him. He's been very good to me and it's not a bridge I'd ever want to burn.
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Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:25 pm to Austin Cajun
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My boss knows this position is where I want to land, I've been very open with him about that. I also suspect that my boss would put in a good work for me if that guy were to mention it to him. I'm not in a position where my boss would fire me if he found out,but it's still uncomfortable ground for me.
if this is true, go for the job.
worry about yourself if you are going for the job youve always wanted
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:26 pm to Austin Cajun
is that a breach of confidentiality if he goes running his mouth?
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:27 pm to Austin Cajun
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knowing that he will likely say something to my boss?
He should be smarter than that.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:27 pm to Austin Cajun
Show up at church...during the alter call give a testimony that you just got a vision about God's next move and it involves a job change.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:27 pm to Austin Cajun
I would tell your boss this is something you would like to pursue and ask if he would be willing to give a reference. This accomplishes two things:
1. If your boss is good and you are a good employee, it will remind him he needs to treat you correctly to keep you there
2. If your boss is willing to give you a good reference, you know he/she is pleased with your work.
If you boss is a good manager/director, he/she will understand and I only wish the people working for me the best in their careers. If I can help them achieve that, even if not working for me, then I always help good employees.
1. If your boss is good and you are a good employee, it will remind him he needs to treat you correctly to keep you there
2. If your boss is willing to give you a good reference, you know he/she is pleased with your work.
If you boss is a good manager/director, he/she will understand and I only wish the people working for me the best in their careers. If I can help them achieve that, even if not working for me, then I always help good employees.
This post was edited on 2/1/16 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:28 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Show up at church...during the alter call give a testimony that you just got a vision about God's next move and it involves a job change.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:28 pm to Austin Cajun
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he will likely say something to my boss?
My boss knows this position is where I want to land, I've been very open with him about that. I also suspect that my boss would put in a good word for me if that guy were to mention it to him. I'm not in a position where my boss would fire me if he found out,
I'm failing to see a negative here.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:29 pm to Hermit Crab
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He should be smarter than that.
yeah, seems like there are laws to prohibit this. Now, if you list your current boss as a reference, that changes things.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:32 pm to WG_Dawg
Say I don't get the offer and my boss knows all about it. Do you think he would give me a raise at the end of the year knowing I was trying to leave? He could hold it against me even though I don't believe he would.
I'm not worried about what would happen if I were to get the job, I'm worried about what could if I didn't get it.
I'm not worried about what would happen if I were to get the job, I'm worried about what could if I didn't get it.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:32 pm to Austin Cajun
Your boss should understand that your current role is a stepping stone to where you want to be.
Look at it this way, if you were a janitor with higher aspirations, should you be fired for wanting to be the manager down the road? No.
Go for it and god speed good man
Look at it this way, if you were a janitor with higher aspirations, should you be fired for wanting to be the manager down the road? No.
Go for it and god speed good man
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:35 pm to Austin Cajun
This a no brainer
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:35 pm to Austin Cajun
Tell your boss first and then contact the hiring manager
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:37 pm to Austin Cajun
If
If you are worth anything and he is a good boss, he would be more inclined to offer you a raise of only to try and keep you longer
If he gets offended at you trying to move up then you probably don't want to work for him anyway
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Say I don't get the offer and my boss knows all about it. Do you think he would give me a raise at the end of the year knowing I was trying to leave? He could hold it against me even though I don't believe he would.
If you are worth anything and he is a good boss, he would be more inclined to offer you a raise of only to try and keep you longer
If he gets offended at you trying to move up then you probably don't want to work for him anyway
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:37 pm to Austin Cajun
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:37 pm to Austin Cajun
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Do you think he would give me a raise at the end of the year knowing I was trying to leave? He could hold it against me even though I don't believe he would.
I'd give you a wage reduction.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:38 pm to High C
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pretty sure thats just your common teabagging experience.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:44 pm to Austin Cajun
LINK
If the applicant has explicitly stated, either at the interview or on the application, that their current employer may not be contacted, to do so would generally be considered unprofessional. However, an employer who contacted an applicant's current employer with either no permission or against the express wishes of the applicant would incur no legal liability if they did so.
If the applicant has explicitly stated, either at the interview or on the application, that their current employer may not be contacted, to do so would generally be considered unprofessional. However, an employer who contacted an applicant's current employer with either no permission or against the express wishes of the applicant would incur no legal liability if they did so.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:45 pm to lsu480
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Tell your boss first and then contact the hiring manager
This. Simply let your boss know that you're happy where you are but one of your "dream positions" is open with another company. Let that you want to go for it. If it doesn't work out, you gladly continue to be an asset for your current company.
He'll appreciate your honesty and he may offer to help you being that he knows the hiring manager.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 1:52 pm to Austin Cajun
If this position requires confidence or balls, I'm not sure you are the right person for the job. I apologize if this was hurtful.
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