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re: Scientists have found the gene that makes men gay or straight

Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:11 am to
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:11 am to
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And of course, if it's a gene and gays generally don't have biological children, how does it get passed on.



There are various theories, one of which is colloquially referred to as the "gay uncle" hypothesis, which pertains specifically to kin selection, and explains how a given allele that disfavors reproduction may be sustained in a given population.

For thousands of years, humans persisted in tribes as hunters and gatherers. The adults of a given group are principally responsible for providing protection and nutritional sustenance to the other members of the group. Thus, one could posit that the overall net fitness of the group decreases as a function of viable offspring. That is, as the amount of offspring within a certain group increases, the overall fitness of the group decreases. The mobility of the group decreases, and more food is required for sustenance of the offspring.

However, if a particular allele appears in the group that deters individuals from reproducing, then the ratio of adults to children shifts and the net fitness of the group increases - they're more mobile, they can acquire more food, and they're more likely to survive as they don't have to expend energy caring for entities that can't survive without aid. The allele wouldn't have to be fixed within the population, as that would certainly be detrimental to the fitness of the group, but even a 1/15 chance of acquiring the allele would elevate the overall fitness of the group.

With that said, homosexuality likely isn't defined by a single gene. While genetics certainly appears to play a role, it's likely a constellation of factors that ultimately defines one's sexuality. Environmental factors, psychological factors, and even hormonal factors in utero likely have an effect on one's sexuality.

For example, simply because you have a genomic permutation that results in a proclivity for elevated levels of LDL doesn't mean that you will invariably develop heart disease. Certainly you're at an increased risk, but there are numerous other factors at play. Likewise, with sexuality, one may possess a specific genetic framework that may make them more likely to develop homosexual tendencies, but there will certainly be environmental and biological factors that have an effect as well.

Additionally, the "gay lifestyle" is most certainly a choice, as it's a diacritical cultural indicator that concurrently provides psychological satisfaction by allowing one to conform to a minority archetype. Conversely, possessing intrinsic, immutable sexual desires for members of the same sex is not.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 11:19 am
Posted by BarbeTiger
Mr. White's Lab Yo
Member since Jan 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:14 am to
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Scientists have found the gene that makes men gay or straight


The skinny gene?
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10046 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:15 am to
The argument has been framed as if choice v. Natural disposition matters in a country that touts freedom and liberty like a whore flaunts her virtuous assets in a brothel. It's all a facade.

I don't care if being gay is a choice or a disposition, the argument is fricking stupid and retards the growth of civilization.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68199 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:29 am to
How does the gay gene know to turn on when one enters the prison gate?
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18841 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:30 am to
I got alpha straight gene.
Posted by Tadey
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
542 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:35 am to
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Which gene is it that makes you wear Banana Republic tanks and flail your arms about when you walk?


Finally someone else asks the same question I've been trying to figure out.
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
5995 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:36 am to
What about the rapist gene? Have they found that yet?
Posted by skygod123
NOLA
Member since Nov 2007
27882 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:37 am to
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I don't know if there is a gay gene or not. But most gay dudes I know were raised by their mom. Either they didn't have a dad around or he didn't have much hand in raising them. I know one glaring exception to that. So whether a person can be born gay or not I don't know. But I'm positive that upbringing has a lot to do with it in a lot of cases.
and we have a nature vs nurture debate on our hands.

(I've made the same observation with those i know well who are gay)
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:37 am to
Have they found the murderer, pedophile or animal sex gene yet?
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:42 am to
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Scientists have found the gene that makes men gay or straight


Is it located in the arse or the throat?
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 2:47 pm to
Have they found the democrat, republican, libertarian, green, tea gene yet?
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