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re: School Resource Officer "Body Slams" Student Sitting in Desk
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What the student did does not justify the officer's actions, the sheriff said, but she must take responsibility for her role.
"We must not lose sight that this whole incident started by this student," he said. "She is responsible for initiating this action. Some responsibility falls on her."
100% my stance.
The student, the teacher, and the cop all share responsibility. Maybe not all the same amount, but definitely all share it.
I assume the cop has no authority to suspend/expel the student, so if the teacher was going to get outside reinforcements, he should have called the principal/disciplinary who could see with their own eyes what the child was doing and have her suspended/expelled on the spot.
I am sure the teacher didn't think the cop was going to react the way he did, but in hindsight, that teacher has to know that the cop didn't have the power to do much else. He didn't have administrative power.. he only has law enforcement power. I don't blame him for not thinking about that at the time, but it is definitely something to think about going forward. What did he really think the cop was going to do? I assume he just thought that calling the cop would scare the student into doing what he asked.
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Thanks for the link.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:02 pm to tigerpimpbot
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No no no. She punched at the cop after he grabbed her. All 3 videos are very clear. He grabbed her around the shoulder, she punches up at him as she is about to be flipped out of the desk.
We should slow down the video like they do in football games on TV and then replay it 17 times so we can all talk to the TV about what we think the call should be
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:08 pm to LouisianaLady
You continue to place your ignorance on the SROs role in public schools on full display.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:08 pm to LouisianaLady
I have seem some mention of the officer's reputation and history, but no details about the disposition and reputation of the student.
Does anyone here have any info?
Does anyone here have any info?
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:44 am to WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
Chick Fight! Louisiana Lady vs Carolina Girl
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:13 am to LouisianaLady
quote:
so if the teacher was going to get outside reinforcements, he should have called the principal/disciplinary who could see with their own eyes what the child was doing and have her suspended/expelled on the spot.
You are being ignorant (correct use of the phrase)
The teacher did call an administrator (think it was the vice principal that showed up) and both the teacher, the principal and Leon Lott said initially that the officer reacted appropriately.
It was only with the social media response and the mainstream media picking up the story because of it that this incident has gone national and resulted in the spineless Leon Lott firing the officer.
This post was edited on 10/29/15 at 3:14 am
Posted on 10/29/15 at 4:14 am to Cockopotamus
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It was only with the social media response and the mainstream media picking up the story because of it that this incident has gone national and resulted in the spineless Leon Lott firing the officer.
WWE needs to hire him for a 30 second spot.
Ratings.
Profit.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 4:58 am to LouisianaLady
Officer should have walked in, told girl to get up and leave, then shrugged his shoulders to teacher and left when the girl refused. He had no chance the second he touched her. This is a school problem, not a law enforcement problem.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 5:40 am to kingfish225
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this is definitely the stupidest response i've ever read on the internet.
I am the one that said it. It was in response to one of the many "what if's" being thrown out there. They were getting more outlandish and unrealistic. I decided to join in what if game.
Sorry you were stuck on checkers and missed it.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 6:17 am to WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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From the evidence that I have seen, the officer did not escalate his use of force in an unreasonable manner
Right. That's why he got run off
Posted on 10/29/15 at 7:31 am to tinymite
His being fired had very little to do with the incident. He was sacrificed on the altar of political correctness and arse covering by the elected sheriff.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 9:03 am to jbgleason
Year old article that sheds light on the DOJ and its stance on school discipline
So what do we do as a society? How can we take our schools back?
quote:
Just a few days ago, Attorney General Eric Holder ridiculously informed the public that black students were being punished more often and “harsher” than white students. He then made demands to change schools current zero-tolerance policies in order to fight the current racial discrimination of students via punishment or suspension. After hearing his obnoxious claims, Educational experts had no choice but to dispute the inaccurate claims.
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Joy Pullmann, managing editor of School Reform News stated that, “It’s ridiculous to assign quotas for discipline based on race If we did that, for one thing, we’d have to believe that Asian students are severely under-disciplined,”– I don’t know about you, but that sounds downright racist (hopefully that doesn’t get back to Holder).
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Andrew Coulson, director of the Center for Educational Freedom at the Cato Institute, stated that it would in turn have a disruptive outcome on classrooms by allowing already troublesome students to stay in the classroom. He clarified by stating, “The kinds [of kids] who just want to be free to learn in peace, who are not disruptive, have their education injured by the disruptive kids who remain in the classroom.”
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Pullmann agreed by later expressing the concern that after a while, “Kids of the favored race know they can get away with more, so they misbehave more, and the well-behaved kids lose out on instruction because the teacher is busy trying to manage unruly students she can’t send to the principal’s office.”
So what do we do as a society? How can we take our schools back?
Posted on 10/29/15 at 11:11 am to gthog61
The chief has officially fired the officer. When your own fire you, you know you done wrong. I guess he showed her, right folks.
This post was edited on 10/29/15 at 11:19 am
Posted on 10/29/15 at 11:27 am to jbgleason
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His being fired had very little to do with the incident. He was sacrificed on the altar of political correctness and arse covering by the elected sheriff.
This exactly. Like the old saying goes - sh!t rolls downhill.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 11:29 am to LSUTANGERINE
Glorification of the dregs continues...
Posted on 10/29/15 at 11:33 am to LSUTANGERINE
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I guess he showed her, right folks.
rewarding a stupid disrespectful teen is definitely the way to go...yay America...you had a good run as a great country
Posted on 10/29/15 at 11:39 am to vodkacop
quote:
Ummm read the story and watch the video instead of just spouting out stupidity. She attacked the cop first.
He could have easily held her on the floor and cuffed her once she was out of the chair, but he picks her up and throws her to the front of the room, what is your justification for that?
Posted on 10/29/15 at 11:40 am to Topwater Trout
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rewarding a stupid disrespectful teen is definitely the way to go...yay America...you had a good run as a great country
all her life
grades lowered ie: Cs are now Bs etc
grade promotion
rules relaxed, local hero now
Welfare next
so on so on
Posted on 10/29/15 at 5:05 pm to Topwater Trout
This could be the start of something great. A cop just got punished for excessive force and not following his training.
The girl should honestly just be thankful he didn't pull his firearm and shoot her when she "tried to hit him".. it would have been as justified as some of the recent high profile police killings.
The girl should honestly just be thankful he didn't pull his firearm and shoot her when she "tried to hit him".. it would have been as justified as some of the recent high profile police killings.
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