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Reach out to your Veteran friends

Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:03 pm
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1657 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:03 pm
I’ve battled my demons for years since I got out of the Army, and to be honest the last couple of months have been tough, not so tough I’ve contemplated suicide but tough enough I thought it would be easier to be dead. Well today I got a call that a good friend I served with was found dead in his apartment and it was due to suicide. He was a great guy, tough as fricking nails, but wanted to pretend he was too tough for our group focused on combatting suicide among our ranks. His body was discovered by the cop wife of a friend of mine that is currently deployed abroad. It’s been devastating for our group of friends. I ask this to ask all of you all to check in on your Veteran friends, we apparently didn’t do enough to ensure he was ok and the guilt I feel is devastating. Please look out for your fellow man, even the toughest among us may be hiding a lot of pain
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
6642 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:09 pm to
Sorry for your loss. I lost a friend of 40 years the same way so I understand the feeling of guilt. It’s great you have formed a support group to make it difference.
You are definitely doing your part to help.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 10:11 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150882 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:11 pm to
There has to be something somewhere you can join, man. A place where you can get together with like-minded vets like you and talk through some shite. I’d start there, or even maybe start one up if there aren’t many available.

And thanks for your service and making the choice to subject yourself to the kind of shite that most of us can’t even fathom.

Feel free to share your stories or your problems here with us as well if you think that may help. We are a bunch of assholes on the OT, but we can also be a compassionate bunch of assholes too.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 10:13 pm
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1657 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:12 pm to
Apparently not, we couldn’t even get one of our closest friends to feel comfortable enough to talk to us
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1657 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:13 pm to
We started that with our Florida4Warriors group and Irreverent Warriors
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
9729 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:17 pm to
Brother I am terribly sorry for your loss. I have lost many I served with to Suicide, it never gets easier.

Too often our pride gets in our way, I fall in and out of dark holes... I like many of us just want some silence.

My thoughts are with you, your friend and his family.

If you want someone to vent to or just bullshite with. I got you!
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89632 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:18 pm to
I never lost a troop on a mission. The only serious injury was a snakebite.

I did lose an NCO to suicide, a couple of years after a deployment. Hurts worse, because so avoidable. One of the best guys you ever met, too. One just never knows what is going on with people. At least not all of it.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 10:19 pm
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1657 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:20 pm to
Thank you
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 10:22 pm
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

Apparently not, we couldn’t even get one of our closest friends to feel comfortable enough to talk to us


I’m not a veteran and not a psychiatrist nor counselor, but you started a group specifically focused on the issue. He was your friend. He knew. I’m sure you discussed at some level. You are not to blame. You are working to prevent what happened. You’ve probably saved a life already and don’t know it. Maybe you do know it. If so, remember the life you did save. People have to want to help themselves, with anything, to truly accept the help of others.

Bottom line, you are not to blame. You’re doing what’s in your power. Imo, best thing you can do at the moment is be cognizant of how this event is affecting you and talk and/or seek professional help so you don’t fall into the same situation.

Sorry for your loss.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 10:24 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28642 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

we apparently didn’t do enough to ensure he was ok and the guilt I feel is devastating.

You can only do what you can do brother.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15367 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:26 pm to
Thoughts and prayers going your way.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
2992 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:35 pm to
I’ve heard a group of people meet over Zoom. I can’t remember anything about it other than that. The guy I was talking to, who I don’t know very well, a friend of a friend, said it saved his life. It has a name, sorry I can’t remember.

I am very sorry for your loss and I hope you find peace. God bless
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1657 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:39 pm to
I had a great group of friends in Florida but just needed a change, so I moved to,Missouri, the toughest part was leaving my Florida4Warriors folks who did so much combatting suicide. Nick was aligned with us but never joined the group, he just didn’t feel comfortable enough to talk to us. I was excited though, last thing I heard from him was that he was going to come meet me here to do some remote camping in the Ozarks
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10379 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:50 pm to
Sorry about your friend's death and for the hardship you are now facing. Keep your head up and I pray that God will help you through this. You have more friends than you think.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1657 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:52 pm to
I know the group we formed has saved lives, just sucks we couldn’t even save one of my best friends lives
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 11:01 pm to
I had multiple soldiers I had the pleasure of serving with as a NCO during multiple OEF deployments suffer from terrible PTSD. I can think of two soldiers who committed suicide, because of a post deployment divorce and another who couldn’t adjust to civilian life. Many of them have been through air assault, airborne, and sapper school (I was 21B) so they are tough guys in my book. These were soldiers on the ground actually searching for wires during dismounted combat operations they didn't stay in an MRAP all day and deploy a robot from 100m which is 99% of what EOD does. PTSD is a lot of times caused by the fact that when you kill a human being you usually don't feel good about it and you shouldn't. When you find pieces of children and old men blown up after they tried to plant an IED in the Chawkay district of the Kunar Province of NE Afghanistan it doesn't sit well with you or you’re recovering from you 3rd IED strike on a two week route clearance mission it obviously doesn't feel normal, non of the shite is. The Army has been fighting the PTSD problem for a long time. This isn’t a matter of someone being weak minded for having PTSD. Always ask for help and always be of assistance when needed to those who are struggling. Life is too short not to help.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10379 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

know the group we formed has saved lives, just sucks we couldn’t even save one of my best friends lives


All you can do reach out and do your best. It sucks this happened. Don't beat yourself up over things beyond your control.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1657 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 11:09 pm to
Appreciate what you said, but I connected with my friend, knew thru shared experiences what he was dealing with, finding out he committed suicide today was the biggest gut punch I’ve ever felt
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 11:59 am
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7586 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 11:54 pm to
I know this isn't why you started this thread but thank you for your service. Those of us that haven't served can't begin to imagine what you feel but I can tell you there are a lot of great Americans that really appreciate you.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8539 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 11:59 pm to
Sorry for your loss and it truly sucks when you get that news. It has been 4 people I served with so far that committed suicide. The most recent was a former platoon Sgt of mine and he was the last person I would have ever thought would commit suicide and it was 2 weeks after he retired. So as you said you just never know what is going through someone's head and what demons they are battling.
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