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re: Pharmacy: This Is What Happens When You Oversaturate A Market
Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:17 pm to Tiguar
Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:17 pm to Tiguar
I’m from a small town. The pharmacy here as 4 different pharmacist. The owner, who is a pharmacist, works one day a week but is well off. The other 3 pharmacist work the other 4 days. Some of those pharmacist work at other pharmacies around the area.
Had another pharmacy open up but it closed down less than 2 years after opening.
I always thought it was odd that such a small town pharmacy had 4 pharmacist working there. Is that normal everywhere?
Had another pharmacy open up but it closed down less than 2 years after opening.
I always thought it was odd that such a small town pharmacy had 4 pharmacist working there. Is that normal everywhere?
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Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:33 pm to prplhze2000
I agree with
Could easily find a semester or two worth of classes to remove from the curriculum
I disagree with
A very large part of the profession now have doctorates. I have only came across one that referred to himself as a “doctor” and he was a bit of a douche. I personally have no desire to be an MD. The whole allure of Pharmacy was not having to touch people. I do however find it a bit ridiculous that PA’s can go to school for 2 years as long as they have a bachelor degree in something and get prescriptive authority.
For example, some pharmacies administer flu tests. They give the patient the result, it’s positive, sorry bud, go see your pcp for a script for Tamiflu. I find it ridiculous that we aren’t allowed to prescribe something like that. In some states, pharmacists can write for birth control, and few other things but its very limited and extra training is required. If our profession is to survive long term, we will have to get provider status. It will allow us to bill Medicare part B for services that are allowed under their state scope of practice, essentially opening up jobs in physician offices.
Otherwise CVS will slowly bleed out independents and even other chains (Wags lost 2 billion while CVS profited 2 billion) and take over the retail market.
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It’s almost as if they want you to take on more student debt
Could easily find a semester or two worth of classes to remove from the curriculum
I disagree with
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They want to think they are damn doctors
A very large part of the profession now have doctorates. I have only came across one that referred to himself as a “doctor” and he was a bit of a douche. I personally have no desire to be an MD. The whole allure of Pharmacy was not having to touch people. I do however find it a bit ridiculous that PA’s can go to school for 2 years as long as they have a bachelor degree in something and get prescriptive authority.
For example, some pharmacies administer flu tests. They give the patient the result, it’s positive, sorry bud, go see your pcp for a script for Tamiflu. I find it ridiculous that we aren’t allowed to prescribe something like that. In some states, pharmacists can write for birth control, and few other things but its very limited and extra training is required. If our profession is to survive long term, we will have to get provider status. It will allow us to bill Medicare part B for services that are allowed under their state scope of practice, essentially opening up jobs in physician offices.
Otherwise CVS will slowly bleed out independents and even other chains (Wags lost 2 billion while CVS profited 2 billion) and take over the retail market.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:33 pm to HogsInTheRock
When I got out of pharmacy school 15 years ago I knew enough not to go to a chain. I’ve worked independent ever since and have always looked forward to work. The pay has always been better than the local chains ($10k-$50k per year better depending on my situation), work environment is better, and I feel more secure in my job vs some of my colleagues at CVS, Walgreens, Walmart, etc...
Independent jobs are harder to find, and you need to be flexible as far as scheduling goes (there may only be 2 pharmacist at an independent that must cover all hours), but it’s been rewarding. If I had a college age son or daughter I would not recommend them go to pharmacy school. With chains consolidating, a lot of independents going out of business, pharmacy schools pumping out graduates (it’s a money game for the schools) and insurances screwing you at every turn, it’s just not a great field to get into. I’m glad I’m where I’m at now, but I wouldn’t do it again if I had to do it over.
Independent jobs are harder to find, and you need to be flexible as far as scheduling goes (there may only be 2 pharmacist at an independent that must cover all hours), but it’s been rewarding. If I had a college age son or daughter I would not recommend them go to pharmacy school. With chains consolidating, a lot of independents going out of business, pharmacy schools pumping out graduates (it’s a money game for the schools) and insurances screwing you at every turn, it’s just not a great field to get into. I’m glad I’m where I’m at now, but I wouldn’t do it again if I had to do it over.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:35 pm to EarlyCuyler3
It was the public's demand for more regulations and lawsuits that created those laws. Just as it is not the cops fault for having to enforce those shitty laws it is not the lawyers fault for having to write and interpret them. People cheered the drug war and patriot act on and still defend both. The covid mandates/lockdowns were demanded by the terrified masses. You can blame everything on lawyers but they don't have as much power as you think. Also if you want voluntary anarchy check out a commune or any failed state. It is always a worst standard of living than even a dictatorship. Ask Iraqians/syriams/Libyans which they prefer.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:38 pm to WaydownSouth
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No. When I pick up retail shifts, I constantly have nurses calling in scripts with wrong directions or not enough pills.
You do know that doctor's offices are usually staffed by medical assistants who call themselves nurse, right?
Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:39 pm to auwaterfowler
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How do I post a picture from the photos on my phone? I don’t have a link.
You need to use a host like Imgur.
I don't use them as much because as already mentioned, they have a hit or miss when it comes to upload images.
The easiest way is to use the copy image feature on Google. However it's tough using that on mobile devices.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:40 pm to gthog61
As anyone seen a Japanese lawyer in real life?
Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:44 pm to bulldog95
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Pharmacist in LA start out at $40-$50 an hr In retail settings but less in hospital/clinic settings.
That’s ridiculous - it should be the other way around.. Hospital pharmacists use much more of their critical thinking skills and work at a higher acuity.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:45 pm to Eyebesmacinhose
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Pharmacist is just an educated drug dealer
Just? What kind of reckless idiot buys drugs from an uneducated drug dealer?
Posted on 8/16/20 at 9:48 pm to Nynna11
Yes but many times it is an RN.
There are some very bright RN’s out there. There are also a lot of dumb ones (as can be said for every profession).
To say an RN can walk in to a retail pharmacy and hold their own is a bit ridiculous. They wouldn’t have a clue about insurance billing and rejections, how to spot a forged script, drug laws, etc.
There are some very bright RN’s out there. There are also a lot of dumb ones (as can be said for every profession).
To say an RN can walk in to a retail pharmacy and hold their own is a bit ridiculous. They wouldn’t have a clue about insurance billing and rejections, how to spot a forged script, drug laws, etc.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 10:27 pm to MSTiger33
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I went to pharmacy school and law school. AMA
How much student debt you have or had?
Posted on 8/16/20 at 10:42 pm to danilo
Total cost of pharmacy school books and tuition was under $10,000. Law school was much more, but my interest rate is under 2%.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 10:46 pm to auwaterfowler
Debated going to school to be a pharmacist but talked with one of them and they said the starting salary is nice but there isn't much growth afterwards.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 10:50 pm to MSTiger33
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Total cost of pharmacy school books and tuition was under $10,000
Dang. Today fees only for LSU are about 2k per semester
Posted on 8/16/20 at 10:58 pm to auwaterfowler
My wife is Pharm D....21 years experience...makes 67 an hour full benefits..
Retail is terrible...the really good jobs are difficult to land.
Big retailers like CVS are ruining the profession...
Retail is terrible...the really good jobs are difficult to land.
Big retailers like CVS are ruining the profession...
This post was edited on 8/16/20 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 8/16/20 at 11:30 pm to ApexTiger
Been working for a indy for almost 20 years. Love it and its the best customer service you can get. Our customers actually matter and we do everything we can to appreciate them. Profession has changed dramatically in the last 10 years.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 11:31 pm to auwaterfowler
My wife (You gotta join her onlyfans page for pics) was in HR for a while, she hired a few pharmacists for a large corporation, the staff pharmacists were salary but the fill in pharmacists made $80-$96 from my recollection.
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Posted on 8/16/20 at 11:34 pm to tigergirl10
They just fill the scripts written by doctors. I don’t know when they would have the power to say hey this script doesn’t seem safe to me.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 11:38 pm to Capstone2017
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It was the public's demand for more regulations and lawsuits that created those laws. Just as it is not the cops fault for having to enforce those shitty laws it is not the lawyers fault for having to write and interpret them. People cheered the drug war and patriot act on and still defend both. The covid mandates/lockdowns were demanded by the terrified masses. You can blame everything on lawyers but they don't have as much power as you think. Also if you want voluntary anarchy check out a commune or any failed state. It is always a worst standard of living than even a dictatorship. Ask Iraqians/syriams/Libyans which they prefer.
All of this stems largely from politicians, who largely happen to be lawyers, seeking to increase control and power.
I'm all for defense lawyers though. Someone has to be there to defend the people from the state, who enacted the illogical laws in the first place.
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