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re: Pfizer data release. 1223 reported fatalities during 3-month period, out of 42K reports
Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:30 pm to tigerinthebueche
Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:30 pm to tigerinthebueche
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She had a visceral disdain for those who dared
to argue or question her “expertise” and dare to refuse the vaccine. People like her have done more to harm the medical industry than can possibly be measured.
There are some TD docs that were doing similar damage. They weren't being lunatics about it. In either case though the "expertise" from what I saw was more or less repeating talking points of what they were told to say from someone at a higher pay grade. It has been clear from the start that most hard core pro vaccine types were not doing any critical thinking and just repeating what they were told based upon manipulated data.
It is sad what our society is becoming. It's not just medical, it's many professions including education as well. Everything is being reduced to just following orders from above. It seems that individual thought and actions are not permitted at the base levels anymore. This is drastically weakening us.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 12:32 pm
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Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:02 pm to AMS
quote:You can’t possibly say this because we don’t know how many people would be included in the study. This wasn’t a trial; this is aggregated data that phizer received up to Feb 21
Miscarriages of participants in the study occurred within the normal expected rate of miscarriages in the population
What is provided to us is the number of adverse reactions that occurred in that aggregated data collection. Not how many adverse reactions occurred relative to the number of people receiving the shot.
So we can’t say absolutely anything at all about the miscarriage rate because there is no denominator for us to compare the case count against
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:05 pm to loogaroo
I propose a compromise. The Ghost of Kyiv shoots down the Pfzer corporate jet if you people can go a week without a vaccine conspiracy thread. Deal?
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:08 pm to WeeWee
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The Ghost of Kyiv shoots down the Pfzer corporate jet if you people can go a week without a vaccine conspiracy thread
Still riding the criminal enterprise train? Good for you, hopefully they pay you for your posts.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:13 pm to IceTiger
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The Ghost of Kyiv shoots down the Pfzer corporate jet if you people can go a week without a vaccine conspiracy thread
Still riding the criminal enterprise train? Good for you, hopefully they pay you for your posts.
Nope. The only people that are paying for my posts are the ones who pay $100 to have a telehealth visit with me and get a worthless prescription for Ivermection when I do telehealth with American Frontline Doctors.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:55 pm to funnystuff
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You can’t possibly say this because we don’t know how many people would be included in the study. This wasn’t a trial; this is aggregated data that phizer received up to Feb 21
study.trial whatever doesnt change the point. they gave you the amount pregnant and the miscarriage adverse events reported. you have the proportions to compare without needing to know the total doses given.
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What is provided to us is the number of adverse reactions that occurred in that aggregated data collection. Not how many adverse reactions occurred relative to the number of people receiving the shot.
if youre gonna nit pick me over wording then its adverse events not adverse reactions. this is an important distinction because it means not everything reported is due to the vaccine, its just tracking things that happened in the window. that means if the things that happen during the window are in line with what normally happens (miscarriages) then you can say there is no difference in the groups being studied and the normal population.
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So we can’t say absolutely anything at all about the miscarriage rate because there is no denominator for us to compare the case count against
for the reasons above we can absolutely say the group studied had no statistical difference wrt miscarriages as the gen pop. we have proportion of miscarriages with vaccine study and we know the general pop proportion of miscarriages. we already have the denominator you think we are missing, we can do this because of the magnitude of the study.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 2:56 pm to Steadyhands
i just dont believe most people are capable of independent critical thinking
following orders is in their DNA. sad af realizing that most people would rather just be controlled
following orders is in their DNA. sad af realizing that most people would rather just be controlled
Posted on 3/2/22 at 3:02 pm to loogaroo
To think they shut Sars vaccine down after 2 deaths. They also did not list anyone as having died with sars as having died of sars. But that was under Obama and no one cared uch about sars at all.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 3:13 pm to AMS
quote:No, we absolutely don’t. We know the number of miscarriages reported. We have no idea about what proportion this represents.
we have proportion of miscarriages with vaccine study
Read the paper more carefully. This is not a study where pfizer chose x number of participants and looked at what number of them had miscarriages. Rather, this is just an aggregation of self-reported adverse events from the general population after receiving the vaccine.
If you think I am wrong about this, please calculate what you think the proportion of miscarriages is within this paper. I, for the life of me, can not figure out a way to do that. But since you say it is easy, please quickly calculate and share it so that I can be proven wrong and we can both move on. Thanks
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 3/2/22 at 3:26 pm to AMS
And for the record, exactly 0 percent of the critique in my last post was attempting to nit-pick the language. If you think that’s what I was doing, then you flat out failed to understand my argument. My argument was that you are fundamentally misunderstanding what information is presented in this paper, not that you missed something small or nit picky
Posted on 3/2/22 at 3:28 pm to AMS
And this wasn’t a study or a trial. It was an aggregation of self reported adverse events. And yes, that does change the point
Posted on 3/2/22 at 5:17 pm to loogaroo
They stopped the swine flu vaccine in the 70's after only 37 deaths.
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Posted on 3/2/22 at 5:18 pm to bamarep
Posted on 3/2/22 at 5:25 pm to Steadyhands
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There are some TD docs that were doing similar damage. They weren't being lunatics about it. In either case though the "expertise" from what I saw was more or less repeating talking points of what they were told to say from someone at a higher pay grade. It has been clear from the start that most hard core pro vaccine types were not doing any critical thinking and just repeating what they were told based upon manipulated data.
It is sad what our society is becoming. It's not just medical, it's many professions including education as well. Everything is being reduced to just following orders from above. It seems that individual thought and actions are not permitted at the base levels anymore. This is drastically weakening us.
Yep, I've lost a ton of respect for doctors the past couple of years. Personal care and actually trying versus just grasping at the quickest and easiest conclusion was already eroding the trust. Now it's mostly narcissists chanting "for the greater good!" in terrible unison.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 6:40 pm to loogaroo
So 1,223 people died that had taken the vaccine. Does that mean the vaccine killed 1,223 people? I feel like that’s a pretty important distinction that no one seems to make in this thread.
Eta - I find that just as ridiculous as the dying with Covid and from Covid bullshite.
Eta - I find that just as ridiculous as the dying with Covid and from Covid bullshite.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 3/2/22 at 7:25 pm to Blitzed
quote:How did you arrive at this number if multiple posters stated the total number of vaccinated in this time frame was redacted?
3% mortality there?
Posted on 3/2/22 at 7:50 pm to shel311
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How did you arrive at this number if multiple posters stated the total number of vaccinated in this time frame was redacted?
1223/42086=0.0290595447417193
Posted on 3/2/22 at 9:09 pm to 2 Jugs
quote:This is not a mortality rate.
1223/42086=0.0290595447417193
42k isn't the number of people who were vaccinated.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 9:12 pm to bamadontcare
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It’s poison. Everybody understand that by now.
Even worse, it didn't seem to alter the course of the virus in any major way. Those putative Covid vaccines just don't work.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 9:48 pm to shel311
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This is not a mortality rate.
42k isn't the number of people who were vaccinated.
Prepare to be amazed by OT complex math.
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