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OT Veterinarians, what is this? (as serious responses as possible)

Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:30 am
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38551 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:30 am
Subject: 13.5 years old, Min Pin
Diet: No changes in diet, except recent addition (within last 3 days) of adding pumpkin supplement to food.
Medication: Proin (works great for urinary incontinence) - taken for last 3 + years and Denamarian (to battle her higher liver enzymes count) - taken for last 30 days.
Boarding: Recently boarded her at my veterinarian approximately 2 weeks ago.

I will schedule this morning to make an appointment with my veterinarian. But until then, I have "guesses" as to what I think this may be, from being very "minimal" to the bad thought of cancer.

My research of what I think she may have leads me to this:

quote:

What is papilloma virus?

Canine oral papillomas, also known as oral warts, are small, benign tumors of the mouth caused by the papilloma virus.

They are found on the lips, gums, mouth, and rarely can also be located on other mucous membranes.


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Causes of papilloma virus in dogs

Canine oral papillomas usually affect young dogs, under the age of 2. Young dogs are more susceptible to the papilloma virus because their immune system is not fully developed.


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Affected dogs can transmit the virus to other dogs through direct contact. This usually occurs when they greet each other, share toys, or eat/drink out of the same food or water bowl.


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Symptoms of papilloma virus in dogs:

Papillomas typically develop on the lips, tongue, throat or gums. They are round and have an irregular surface, reminiscent of a cauliflower or sea anemone, and usually grow in clusters. Most dogs are asymptomatic unless the papillomas become infected. Infected oral papillomas can cause pain, swelling and bad breath.


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Most cases of canine oral papillomas go away on their own within 1-5 months as the affected dog’s immune system matures and mounts a response to the virus.






:inbeforedoghasaids
:inbeforedoghasherp
:inbeforeputherdown

or any other derogatory or inflammatory comment. She's a family member to me.

This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 7:34 am
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:34 am to
Hope it's not serious. Best of luck to your friend.
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
3888 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:37 am to
quote:

What is papilloma virus?

Canine oral papillomas, also known as oral warts, are small, benign tumors of the mouth caused by the papilloma virus.

They are found on the lips, gums, mouth, and rarely can also be located on other mucous membranes.


Not a Vet here but I would recommend to quit letting your dog lick your balls.

ETA: In all seriousness, several years ago, we had a dog that got it. Our dog actually had it on his nose, not as big as what is shown in the picture. the vet said it wasn't serious, but our dog wasn't 13.5 years old either. it eventually went away. I don't remember exactly what the vet gave us, but it was a cream that we put on it once a day. No biggie, dogs are more resilient then you think.
This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 7:44 am
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
16534 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:40 am to
Could just be a wart. Older dogs get them sometimes
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18911 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:40 am to
Is it fluid filled? Because it looks like an ingrown hair more than anything else.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1924 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:45 am to
Will, I just talked to my wife, she is a veterinarian, and She said that a dog can get warts at any time due to their immune system. It is non contagious and will go away on it's own. However, if it is big and hindering the dog's quality of life, then you can go to the vet to have it cauterized. I hoped that helps. I agree, they are family.
This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 7:47 am
Posted by sloopy
Member since Aug 2009
6885 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:46 am to
My dog currently has the same thing on his paw. We will probably end up having to get it cut off because he limps around on it. Bet said it probably came from the place we board him at.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38551 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:50 am to
quote:

Will, I just talked to my wife, she is a veterinarian, and She said that a dog can get warts at any time due to their immune system. It is non contagious and will go away on it's own. However, if it is big and hindering the dog's quality of life, then you can go to the vet to have it cauterized. I hoped that helps. I agree, they are family.




She appears normal, other than the "growth" on the bottom of her lip. Active, eats well, barks like no other when someone knocks on the door and gives my Doberman hell.


This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 7:53 am
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12952 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:50 am to
Looks like papilloma. May want to see if the dog is immunocompromised some way.



.......and put the peanut butter away.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38551 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:52 am to
quote:

.......and put the peanut butter away.


Is this last comment serious or a joke?

I ask, because I do give her PB as this is the only way she will take her Denamarian pill to help with her liver enzymes count (won't touch a pill pocket).

Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Dick.


No. The dick thing is to keep that old arse dog alive for your pleasure. Dogs can't kill themselves like your paw-paw. Dogs shouldn't be on multiple medications so they don't piss themselves.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1924 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:57 am to
I tried PB but one of my dog will not take it. So what I did was to cook some rice, mix it with a lot of PB and put it in a small container. Then I would get out a small bit for each of my four dogs, and put medication for whoever needed it, and gave each one a bit of the PB and rice combo. They love it.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1924 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:58 am to
quote:

No. The dick thing is to keep that old arse dog alive for your pleasure. Dogs can't kill themselves like your paw-paw. Dogs shouldn't be on multiple medications so they don't piss themselves.


frick you asswipe.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38551 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:00 am to
quote:

CoachDon


quote:

Dick.



Don't mind him. He is the resident contrarian prick here. His comments are funny, but only to him.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:04 am to
Let's get real for a moment. You feed your dog all kinds of drugs for various things. Your dog is old and grey. Who are you keeping him around for?

The answer is you.

I'm not trying to be funny. I am being real. You are pretending that dog will live forever and is happy with his daily struggles.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1924 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:44 am to
quote:

Let's get real for a moment. You feed your dog all kinds of drugs for various things. Your dog is old and grey. Who are you keeping him around for?

The answer is you.

I'm not trying to be funny. I am being real. You are pretending that dog will live forever and is happy with his daily struggles.


OK, let's get real. As Will said, his dog is like family. He and I and others like us are going to treat them like family. We know if they are hurting. When their quality of life is not there, then we will make that difficult decision. THAT IS BEING REAL. When our dog is no longer wagging his/her tail, having MAJOR medical issues, then we will know, our dog will know. It is not up to some internet guru to decide what is best for everybody. If you really think it is time to put her down, please give your credentials and reasons and Will can take that under advisement. Otherwise, you are not being real, you are being, and I am saying this respectfully, ignorant.
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:46 am to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119227 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:47 am to
quote:

She's a family member to me.


Best of luck.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 9:59 am to
My dog got CPV at age 1 or 2 and I clipped off the warts on his gums and fed them to him.

Sounds gross, but it got rid of all of them. It helps the body create a defense against them.

Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5525 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:25 am to
Need pic of the Doberman and the min pin side by side.

Do it!
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