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OT Lawyers - thoughts on this scenario

Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:09 pm
Posted by VanRIch
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:09 pm
You work for Company XYZ and do work under for them. Lets say that work can be captured in a photograph. You leave the company, start your own doing the same thing and put up photographs of your work on your website that you did under Company XYZ. You give no credit to Company XYZ. Let's assume you have permission to use the photographs because they were taken by a 3rd party photographer. Where does the law fall in this scenario?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43114 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:11 pm to
Need more facts, this could go a number of ways.


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start your own doing the same thing and put up photographs of your work on your website that you did under Company XYZ. You give no credit to Company XYZ
Is there a reason why you aren't using photographs of yourself doing the work for YOUR company rather than at your previous employer?
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79207 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:12 pm to
the horse is named friday
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10401 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:14 pm to
It's not me. But this person started a brand new company and doesn't have her own work in her portfolio yet.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4343 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:15 pm to
I'm sure your old company would have no problem with you using their projects to advertise for your new business.


Go for it!!
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14521 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

You work for Company XYZ and do work under for them
For starters, what does this statement mean?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30290 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Let's assume you have permission to use the photographs because they were taken by a 3rd party photographer


I'm not a lawyer but based on some things I've dealt with in industry, here is what I think. If the photo's were done for company XYZ, odds are the right to disseminate those photos are held by company XYZ. Depending on the contract, the photographer may even be in violation for still having the images (probably not but I have seen contracts that required the destruction of even electronic documents post delivery of the work product). So unless they have permission from company XYZ (I assume not because of how the statement is worded) there is potential for a lawsuit or even criminal charges.

Again, not a lawyer but I've seen people in some uncomfortable situation for stuff like this.

I assume the split was not amicable.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:44 pm to
You should sue your English Teacher.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43114 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

It's not me. But this person started a brand new company and doesn't have her own work in her portfolio yet.
Typically the company owns all rights to their photographs even if taken by 3rd party (which is usually a photographer who is obviously a 3rd party). You and/or her need to get a fricking grip and not use another company's photos. You/she can talk about how many years experience you have etc without actually putting those pictures on the site or material. Be smart.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
10895 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

You work for Company XYZ and do work under for them


quote:

For starters, what does this statement mean?


The work for XYZ was done in Australia?
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25486 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

thoughts on this scenario by VanRIch


Is the photographer willing to wear a neck brace?
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39115 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

You work for Company XYZ and do work under for them. Lets say that work can be captured in a photograph.


Do you do gay porn and are a power bottom?

What does "Do work under for them mean?
Posted by mikrit54
Robeline
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:24 pm to
Train A gets to Chicago 15 minutes before Train B.
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
7918 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:44 pm to
Forget the lawyers. Make sure Company XYZ has no mob connections.
Posted by mr. penguin
Member since Jun 2009
7467 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:57 pm to
Did the photographer release the rights to the photographs to you? Photographers retain copyright rights to their photographs unless they expressly release them.

If the photographer released them to XYZ, then you do not have a right to use them with XYZs permission (unless you signed otherwise). I assume they took the pictures while you were "on the clock," which in that case, they likely belong to the XYZ.
Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
3495 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:05 pm to
The doctor is his mom.
Posted by Slip Screen
Tomball, Texas
Member since Jan 2005
2107 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:21 pm to
Assuming the photos don't show anything secret about XYZ or its products, this is a copyright issue. If everyone papered things correctly on the front end, XYZ would own the exclusive rights to use, copy, disseminate, post, etc. the photos based on a work made for hire clause in the agreement with the photographer. Your friend's use is copyright infringement.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

Let's assume you have permission to use the photographs because they were taken by a 3rd party photographer.

I wouldn't be worried about the photographer's copyright. I'd be worried about what my old company had to say about me taking their IP.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 4:32 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30290 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:42 pm to
Public education, what can you expect.

I usually try to proofread but work occasionally interferes.
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18368 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:44 pm to
frickin cyclists.....
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