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OT Electrician wiring question pt 2 update its FIXED
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:03 pm
So now Im replacing light covers/fixtures in different rooms first 2 go fine...computer room has 2 switches on either side that controlled a chandelier (just lights). This one has 2 whites 2 reds 2 blacks and grounds. Couldn't figure out what breaker turned the power off cause any combo of the switches never cut the power per my non contact volt indicator. So I cut the main...hook up both whites to light white and both blacks to light black and of course grounds...flipped the main and no power in that room. Any ideas?
This post was edited on 3/27/16 at 2:34 pm
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Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:07 pm to mpar98
Forgot to mention the chandelier didnt have black or white wires just 2 common looking ones each hooked up to both blacks and both whites
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:08 pm to mpar98
what switches are you replacing with?
what wires were connected to the light switch before you swapped it? did you take a pic?
what wires were connected to the light switch before you swapped it? did you take a pic?
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:10 pm to CAD703X
Originally it was both whites to a wire (non colored) and both blacks to a wire (non colored)
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:11 pm to mpar98
Why not reconnect it the way you found it?
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:12 pm to mpar98
If its wired to black n white, , then wire the new ones exactly the same.
some guys will run a few homeruns into a light box, switch, it can get hectic, especially if they are using reverse switch legs and shite.
W/O being able to look at it, it could be a few things.
I always ran shite the simplest way, so any home owner could get into the box and know whats going on. I worked with other guys who would do all kinds of shite in a box, and unless he came back to trim out, the other guys would have to trouble shoot to figure what he was doing.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:13 pm to JoePepitone
I did
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:15 pm to stlslick
Any chance it could be 1 white and 1 black to each my light white and black?
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:17 pm to mpar98
if you can, take a pic of both boxes(where switches go)
it could of been run as a 3 way(which is why a red could be in play), and the home owner jerry rigged it to not be 3 way'd
hard to figure it out, without seeing it
it could of been run as a 3 way(which is why a red could be in play), and the home owner jerry rigged it to not be 3 way'd
hard to figure it out, without seeing it
This post was edited on 3/25/16 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:18 pm to stlslick
first thing u need to do, is figure out what wire is your power(hot).
This post was edited on 3/25/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:18 pm to mpar98
quote:
Originally it was both whites to a wire (non colored) and both blacks to a wire (non colored)
if its a 3way switch you should have 3 wires connected to the original switch.
something doesnt add up. were those 2 wires above pigtails from the switch? did you unscrew the wire caps & try to wire all 4 wires to the screws?
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:22 pm to CAD703X
Didnt mess with the reds as they were never hooked up...the 2 blacks were wired to a chandelier wire and the 2 whites were hooked to the other chandelier wire. I hooked my light white to both outlet whites and the light black to both the outlet blacks
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:22 pm to MBclass83
w/o seeing it, it's hard to figure out, it could be many things.
that red could be a home run to another circuit, but in that box. a lot of stuff could be going on.
that red could be a home run to another circuit, but in that box. a lot of stuff could be going on.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:24 pm to MBclass83
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what happened to the red wires?
I never saw that the reds were hooked up...bout to go dark pull the wires down and take a pic
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:25 pm to mpar98
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:25 pm to mpar98
quote:
the 2 blacks were wired to a chandelier wire and the 2 whites were hooked to the other chandelier wire. I hooked my light white to both outlet whites and the light black to both the outlet blacks
i'm so confused. you dont mention the word 'switch' one time here.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:25 pm to mpar98
What you are describing is a 3-way switch setup. It is probably wired up as indicated in the example option#3 shown in the picture on the LINK and below.
The way you wired it probably tripped the breaker for the room since it likely caused a dead short. Check your box for a tripped breaker. Likely that is the one for that room. Migh want to check you switches as well, since one of those was possibly destroyed (look for scorch marks).
It's always a good idea to pay careful attention to how the wires were hooked up when disassembling.
The way you wired it probably tripped the breaker for the room since it likely caused a dead short. Check your box for a tripped breaker. Likely that is the one for that room. Migh want to check you switches as well, since one of those was possibly destroyed (look for scorch marks).
It's always a good idea to pay careful attention to how the wires were hooked up when disassembling.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:32 pm to mpar98
The reds are wired to each other
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:36 pm to mpar98
Take pictures of the switches and the chandelier wiring and post. If you can't post the pics, get me your e-mail and you could send them to me. If you rewired it as you found it, something doesn't add up unless you have 2 lights controlled by the switches. Then it would look like this 
and I would have no clue as to your lack of power, plus the prescence of the red wires is confusing.
and I would have no clue as to your lack of power, plus the prescence of the red wires is confusing.
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