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Not Voting = Not Being Allowed to Bitch/Criticize...Why?

Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:44 am
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:44 am
Why is the democratic process one of the few facets of American society where so many people go out of their way to declare that non-participants (in this case non-voters) aren't allowed to remark on the presidential election and outcome?

Non-coaches, a.k.a. fans, are allowed to question the play-calling of their favorite teams.

Diners are allowed to criticize the culinary abilities of a restaurant, although many might not be cooks.

Why am I not allowed to express my dissentiment towards either candidate just because I refuse to participate? If I view this as a rigged system and thereby choose to not be a part of the charade, why can I not lament the overall outcome of an election?

This is one of the only avenues in life I can think of where so many people are quick to dismiss your opinions just because you didn't engage in a particular activity.

I always hearken back to Ole George...

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58662 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:46 am to
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Not Voting = Not Being Allowed to Bitch/Criticize.


It's a stupid argument.
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:50 am to
life is like a box of chocolates.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68299 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:57 am to
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Non-coaches, a.k.a. fans, are allowed to question the play-calling of their favorite teams.



Because fans support the team financially, even if all they do is watch it on tv

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Diners are allowed to criticize the culinary abilities of a restaurant, although many might not be cooks.



You dont have to be a chef to know food sucks
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28429 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:57 am to
I don't think the argument is necessarily dumb. Do you criticize a restaurant without eating at it?

In any case, people view criticizing without voting as hypocritical. You had a chance to take advantage of the right to vote given to you in a democracy and chose not to. You had "a voice" with your vote, however minimal, and chose not to use it.

I voted and like most Americans I will probably be complaining for the next four years regardless of which a-hole we elect
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:59 am to
Because you're given the opportunity to express your opinion with a vote. If you don't want to exercise that opportunity then that's your option, but you don't get the opportunity to express it again (i.e. bitch)
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7315 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:01 am to
The people who can't bitch or criticize are the people who do vote and vote for the wrong guy. They created the mess. I'm looking at you, Obama voters.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:07 am to
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Because you're given the opportunity to express your opinion with a vote. If you don't want to exercise that opportunity then that's your option, but you don't get the opportunity to express it again (i.e. bitch)



Are you really expressing anything if you aren't in a swing state?

Just pissing time away for the myth of democracy.
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 11:08 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202829 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:10 am to
I have zero problem with you voicing how you feel.... It's your right to vote or not vote.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:11 am to
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You had a chance to take advantage of the right to vote given to you in a democracy


The United States is not a democracy. The United States, as a nation, is a republic.

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You had "a voice" with your vote, however minimal, and chose not to use it.


You have about the same voice by not voting. Refusing to put your support towards these 2 assholes is a choice.

Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28429 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:26 am to
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You have about the same voice by not voting. Refusing to put your support towards these 2 assholes is a choice.

Vote for a third party then to make a point.

Also if you don't go to the polls then you don't vote for important ballot measures in our state.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:28 am to
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Vote for a third party then to make a point.



Have you seen the 3rd party candidates?

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Also if you don't go to the polls then you don't vote for important ballot measures in our state.



First, I'm not in your state. And I do agree that is the important part of voting, which I did, while withholding voting for President.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28429 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:30 am to
Third party candidates sucked this year, but again voting third party is to make a point that neither of the two major parties represent my views.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6371 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:34 am to
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Vote for a third party then to make a point.


And if you don't support any of those options? There should be a 'None of the Above' option.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:35 am to
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voting third party is to make a point that neither of the two major parties represent my views.


And still misses on the entire issue in the first place....
Posted by CornDogCologne
AFUERA!
Member since Nov 2007
8719 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:36 am to
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The United States is not a democracy. The United States, as a nation, is a republic.


It used to be a republic. Recent elections have felt like mob rule to me.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58662 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:37 am to
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Because you're given the opportunity to express your opinion with a vote. If you don't want to exercise that opportunity then that's your option, but you don't get the opportunity to express it again (i.e. bitch)



Illogical.
Posted by CornDogCologne
AFUERA!
Member since Nov 2007
8719 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:39 am to
Even if voting isn't a complete fricking farce, we almost always seem to get two terrible candidates that aren't worth the effort.

The only thing that gives me hope with trump is that he is a political outsider.

This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 11:40 am
Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
5580 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:40 am to
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Have you seen the 3rd party candidates?


This one seems like a viable option. Princess Khadijah
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16172 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:42 am to
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don't think the argument is necessarily dumb. Do you criticize a restaurant without eating at it?


If the restaurant only served shite stew and vomit cobbler, and it was the only restaurant in town, yes I would fricking criticize it.

That's what we're getting every 4 years.
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