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NFL sends cease and desist letter to brand ‘Defend New Orleans’

Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:12 am
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:12 am
WVUE

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Defend New Orleans got a cease and desist letter from the NFL. It states multiple apparel designs too closely resembled New Orleans Saints merchandise. Defend New Orleans’ attorney responded in a letter saying images like the fleur-e-lis have been synonymous with the city for more than 300 years and the company will not stop using it.


Doe the NFL think they own the rights to a fleur de lis?
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:13 am to
quote:

Doe the NFL think they own the rights to a fleur de lis?
probably
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:14 am to
I saw that the DNO attorney described New Orleans as one of the most “meaningful cities in the world”
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:14 am to
I can kinda see both sides. Just from reading the snippet in the OP I thought the same thing...you can't C&D someone simply fo ra fleurdelist that's ludicrous.

But looking at the picture, the fleurdelis is placed on the side of a skull that at first glance can certainly resemble a helmet, and the whole thing is black and gold. I can sort see their point.

Would I waste my time with this foolishness? No. But I can at least see where they're coming from with it.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:15 am to
quote:

Doe the NFL think they own the rights to a fleur de lis?

No but they think they can bleed the company out on litigation and bring them to their knees.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:15 am to
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described New Orleans as one of the most “meaningful cities in the world”


well he's exactly right. If you ascribe a ton of meaning to ranking high on crime statistic lists.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:16 am to
City’s better than ever
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:17 am to
quote:

saw that the DNO attorney described New Orleans as one of the most “meaningful cities in the world”


I know people here like to shite on the city, and I wouldn’t cross the parish line if I didn’t have to, but I think the city with its port is pretty meaningful…. And NO is recognized around the world, if you ask people around the world where Baton Rouge was, I bet they wouldn’t know.

A major music culture was born in NO…
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 8:23 am
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:18 am to
frick the nfl
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:18 am to
quote:

attorney described New Orleans as one of the most “meaningful cities in the world”
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:18 am to
I was all ready to smash the NFL but the particular style of fdl, combined with the location on the head, combined with the black & gold coloring scheme, sure looks like a Saints helmet to me. It's not any one thing but the whole scheme together.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:19 am to
Anybody can send a cease and desist letter. Doesn't mean you have to comply.
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:19 am to
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I saw that the DNO attorney described New Orleans as one of the most “meaningful cities in the world”


It certainly is, just in the middle of a 30 year siege by incompetent corrupt leaches
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 8:20 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:19 am to
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But looking at the picture, the fleurdelis is placed on the side of a skull that at first glance can certainly resemble a helmet, and the whole thing is black and gold.

The black and gold is the big issue.

the FDL isn't the property of the NFL, but the FDL in conjunction with black and gold may be.

Kind of like how gas stations have to toe the line on using purple and gold and "tigers" to name their station. They can usually get away with one variable but not both.

quote:

Would I waste my time with this foolishness? No. But I can at least see where they're coming from with it.

I'm no IP expert but one of the forms of IP requires the owner to do just this or they risk losing it.
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 8:21 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:21 am to
quote:

Doe the NFL think they own the rights to a fleur de lis?



I mean, their application is pretty close to the Saints. But I think its different enough for them to continue on
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:21 am to
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It certainly is, just in the middle of a 30 year siege by incompetent corrupt leaches

The ruling class?
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:22 am to
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The ruling class?


True but not in the traditional sense
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Doe the NFL think they own the rights to a fleur de lis?


Think?
Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:23 am to
I would think letting Defend New Orleans operate for 20 years before the letter has to be considered.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68941 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:25 am to
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know people here like to shite on the city, and I wouldn’t cross the parish line if I didn’t have to, but I think the city with its port is pretty meaningful…. And NO is recognized around the world, if you ask people around the world where Baton Rouge was, I bet they wouldn’t know. A major music culture was born in NO…



It’s still not back after Katrina.

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