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New MS River Bridge for loop - Legislature acts

Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:33 pm
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18895 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:33 pm
While still a long shot in an election cycle, I am shocked this thing got out of Committee. May go down and listen to the debate on this in the session. Sure to be a shite show.

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House Transportation Committee Chairwoman Karen St. Germain, D-Pierre Part, sponsor of the bill, said the measure would raise about $7 billion over 10 years, when it is set to expire. One of the projects included in the legislation is construction of a new bridge over the Mississippi River in the Baton Rouge area.


Meanwhile, start saving your pennies.

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Despite massive hurdles, a House committee Tuesday approved a $675 million per year state sales tax hike for roads and bridges. Moments later, the same panel approved a plan -- House Bill 777 -- that would increase Louisiana’s gasoline tax by 10 cents per gallon, which would raise another $300 million annually. That means the two proposals would boost taxes by nearly $1 billion per year if they win final approval.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98494 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:35 pm to
I am as anti-tax as it gets, but I have no problem with this (although, I'd have upped the gas tax more and either eliminated or reduced the sales tax hike).
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6571 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:37 pm to
I think the legislative leaders have taken the pulse and are counting votes for a veto override. They are acting pretty confident. We can only hope.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:38 pm to
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I am as anti-tax as it gets, but I have no problem with this
Yeah, I agree...I mean, I'm not expert on government but I have no problem with a dedicated tax to fixing our infrastructure. It seems kinda like what government should do as one of it's primary functions.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68268 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:39 pm to
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loop


Yadayadayadayadayadayadayadayadauadayada
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18895 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:42 pm to
Not to go Poli Board on this, I posted it here because of the OT interest in a loop, but I actually AGREE with something that the much-hated Jindal said. Please hold the torches and pitchforks for one minute. He stated he wouldn't agree to a tax hike without a corresponding cut elsewhere in the budget. Given the massive bloat in the Louisiana pork barrel, I can agree with him on this. Doesn't mean it will happen but damn I would like to see our legislators man up and make some needed cuts. But no way his intent of using this to get them to do that will happen.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41160 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:45 pm to
Won't happen just because the legislature raises taxes for roads doesn't mean that the money goes to construction of roads and bridges.

There is already a $12 billion backlog. Because they raid the transportation trust fund.

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Senate Transportation Committee Chairman Robert Adley, R-Benton, sponsor of a series of road-related bills, couched his proposals as a first step toward easing the state’s $12 billion backlog of road and bridge needs.

Adley said that, of $717 million in the Transportation Trust Fund, only $27 million found its way to state highways.


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A bid to boost state aid for roads and bridges hit a wall Monday in the Louisiana Senate Finance Committee.

One of the proposals, Senate Bill 221, would accelerate the movement of money from Louisiana’s general revenue fund to one for state transportation only.

The other — Senate Bill 123 — would end the annual shift of state dollars from transportation to State Police.

Both were delayed indefinitely, and perhaps for good, by the powerful committee amid problems on how to resolve a $1.6 billion shortfall to keep state spending at current levels.
Posted by Mac
Forked Island, USA
Member since Nov 2007
14656 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:47 pm to
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sales tax hike

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increase Louisiana’s gasoline tax
BJ is still governor, right? Not going to happen.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5308 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:49 pm to
Is this $7 billion all for the bridge? I know building a bridge and loop will be expensive but is $7 billion really in the range? That seems way too high. The gas tax seems awfully high, too. I don't mind a gas tax increase but geez, 10 cents a gallon? I guess we can take solace in the fact that our gas prices are usually lower than many other places around the country.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67009 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:52 pm to
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Yeah, I agree...I mean, I'm not expert on government but I have no problem with a dedicated tax to fixing our infrastructure. It seems kinda like what government should do as one of it's primary functions.


The problem with our dedicated tax to transportation is that the legislature has been allowing that dedicated fund to be used to fund everything but road improvements. Half the budget goes to maintain DOTD and pay its employees and retirement costs. Another big chunk goes to the state police. Less than 5% actually is used to build or maintain any roads.
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 12:54 pm
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:52 pm to
See, that's what I don't understand. Is that saying there are $12B in that fund that can be allocated?
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12299 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:53 pm to
Id prefer it to be dedicated from gas taxes alone. This needs to be a dedicated amendment based action.. This needs to happen though because we simply cannot grow without the proper road infrastructure and it has become apparent that our legislative and executive level cannot properly put our monies into the proper functions
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13847 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:59 pm to
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Is this $7 billion all for the bridge? I know building a bridge and loop will be expensive but is $7 billion really in the range?

No.. it appears to be for multiple projects.. one of which is the bridge.

For comparison, the John James Audubon Bridge in St. Francisville cost a little under half a billion.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13847 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:02 pm to
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less than 5% actually is used to build or maintain any roads.

Well the state gets much of its money for roadwork from federal funds. So I'm not sure why that matters.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41160 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:03 pm to
No, $12 billion worth of project that we don't have money for, according to the article in the Advocate. Something like 23 cents of the 24 cents gas tax goes to things other than road construction.
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