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New documents reveal why the FDA says marijuana isn't medicine

Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:27 am
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:27 am
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Some of the records were already publicly available, but taken as a whole, the documents reveal the reasoning that keeps weed in a more restrictive category than cocaine, OxyContin, and fentanyl, all of which are Schedule II.

The highlights include findings that conclude:

Marijuana is addictive to monkeys. The FDA cited a study conducted in 2000 on squirrel monkeys that were trained to self-administer THC, the main psychoactive ingredient in weed. Researchers found that the monkeys liked to get high, and the FDA said such studies are “often useful in predicting rewarding effects in humans, and is indicative of abuse liability.”
People prefer to smoke marijuana. Noting that many people prefer to smoke marijuana rather than take it in pill form, the FDA compared weed to cocaine, opium, heroin, and meth. “The intense psychoactive drug effect achieved rapidly by smoking is generally considered to produce the effect desired by the abuser,” the FDA wrote, adding, “this effect explains why abusers often prefer to administer certain drugs by inhalation… rather than orally.”
Getting high makes users feel funny. The FDA listed nine common effects of marijuana, including “increased merriment and appetite,” “heightened imagination,” “disorganized thinking,” “illusions, delusions, and hallucinations,” and “agitation, paranoia, confusion, drowsiness, and panic attacks, which are most common in experienced or high-dosed users.”
It’s easy to buy weed. The agency noted that marijuana is “more widely available from illicit sources rather than through legitimate channels,” which seems obvious considering that the drug remains illegal for nonmedical users in all but four states.
Marijuana is popular. In a section about the “history and current pattern of abuse,” the FDA cites 2012 data that says 111.2 million Americans — more than 42 percent of the U.S. population — used marijuana at least once, and 7.6 million people use it on a “daily or almost daily basis.”



For you "Gateway" pundits....the FDA says that's bullshite.

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The FDA also cited a number of studies that show weed is relatively safe, including findings that state: It’s not a “gateway drug.” Discussing the so-called “gateway effect” that supposedly leads pot smokers to try more dangerous drugs, the FDA stated that research does not support a “direct causal relationship between regular marijuana use and other illicit drug use.”


Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:30 am to
I like to smoke multiple times a day.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:35 am to
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I like to smoke multiple times a day.



are you a squirrel monkey?
Posted by Turftoe
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:36 am to
I enjoy bong rips early in the morning
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:38 am to
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Noting that many people prefer to smoke marijuana rather than take it in pill form




well yea

do most people eat the apple straight off the core or do they cut it up and bake a pie?
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:52 am to
I find it very hard to believe that nearly half of the US has tried weed.
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:53 am to
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the FDA stated that research does not support a “direct causal relationship between regular marijuana use and other illicit drug use.”


Thought this was obvious. The shitty people you surround yourself with are the gateway drug
Posted by Sidicous
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:53 am to
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Marijuana is popular. In a section about the “history and current pattern of abuse,” the FDA cites 2012 data that says 111.2 million Americans — more than 42 percent of the U.S. population — used marijuana at least once, and 7.6 million people use it on a “daily or almost daily basis.”


Without cannabis the whole Drug War and need for DEA goes away.

There are simply not enough users/abusers of ALL other drugs combined to justify the existence of the DEA. Pot is the foundation the whole anti-drug, drug war, social control of "alternative lifestyles and cultures" establishment. Without pot the whole thing falls apart.

Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:53 am to
So the FDA thinks pot is addicitive and thus shouldnt be legal. Well why is alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine legal?
They are all addicitve.

Hell. Might as well making working out illegal. Im addicted to exercise. Might have to make gyms a schedule II drug.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:58 am to
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are you a squirrel monkey?

I wish
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:05 am to
In other words, the FDA had to conjure up some bullshite reasons to justify its preordained decision.
Posted by skinny domino
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:10 am to
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Hell. Might as well making working out illegal. Im addicted to exercise. Might have to make gyms a schedule II drug.
this - the first three marathons I ran - I was high as a Georgia pine.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:59 am to
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Researchers found that the monkeys liked to get high



That's because it's awesome. I don't see how addictive substances such as tobacco and alcohol can be legal but marijuana can't be. It is time for the stigma to be lifted and legalize, regulate, and tax the sale of Marijuana through legitimate means. The police lobby, alcohol lobby, pharmaceutical lobby who have worked so hard to keep it illegal can go f*ck themselves.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 2:15 am to
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So the FDA thinks pot is addicitive and thus shouldnt be legal. Well why is alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine legal?



Per the FDA...

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It’s no more addictive than tobacco. The FDA noted that frequent use of marijuana “produces physical dependence that is mild, short-lived, and comparable to tobacco withdrawal.”
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 2:48 am to
I wish they would make this shite legal so everyone will shut up and I can drink myself to death in peace
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 3:03 am to
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comparable to tobacco withdrawal.”
Well that's some horseshite.
Posted by tidalmouse
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:20 am to
Squirrel Monkeys are cool.

Posted by GuyonaBuffalo
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:33 am to




Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:21 am to
I don't understand why Vice is claiming this backs up classification as schedule I.

All the reasons cited support classification as an addictive substance, but to be schedule I requires that there is no accepted medical use and the article does not discuss that topic at all.

Not saying that it shouldn't be schedule I, just saying that the article doesn't show why either way.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:30 am to
Tobacco and alcohol don't find the cartels, weed does
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