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re: Neighborhood developments in South Louisiana

Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:47 pm to
Part of having a subdivided plan approved by the local gov'ts Zoning Commission is to have a drainage study conducted and then provide the drainage plan with your subdivision plat. In that plan, the city is responsible to make sure you have sufficiently addressed any current flooding issues as well as any new issues your runoff would cause.
The last one I did, I had to change culverts under a road to increase the runoff rates sufficient to offset the developed property. It had needed to be done for 20 years but Lafayette waited until somebody else would pay for it to do the job.
Baton Rouge more than likely does the same thing, that's why you don't see all those new neighborhoods flooding ... it's because they are changing the retention capacity of the property itself with ponds/open ditches or improving the downstream flow rates of the surrounding drainage system.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 2:48 pm
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25391 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:50 pm to
I think Louisiana desperately needs the Darlington reservoir built. And likely restricted development along the lower Amite and other rivers feeding the Ponchatrain/Maurepas basin in the Florida parishes.

Baton Rouge needs to disperse it’s inevitable suburban sprawl more to the west side along LA1 and focus some attention on redeveloping older neighborhoods.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98285 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:50 pm to
Because no one's paying the politicians to approve development on dry ground. If they were, you better believe the only subdivisions being built would be above the high water mark.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

1-can’t build upward, no building can be taller than the state capitol (government reigns over you)


this is both dumb and false.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:52 pm to
All BS.
They make a developer change some materials every so often to look like they are doing something. Retention ponds are a scam. Most of them stay 75% full all of the time.
I'm not against new developments, but its not done correctly and is done as CHEAP as possible. There's also only so many houses you can put in a single area.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:55 pm to
My issue with Ascension Parish developments is the complete neglect of infrastructure to support the added traffic. And when they finally do get around to doing something, it's a halfass effort just to say they did something. Take Hwy 73 for example. They went through all that effort just to add a center (suicide) turn lane. Now why the frick would you have Hwy 73 wrapped up for about five years, and you come up with some stupid shite like that? Most of those roads need to be 4 laned from end to end. Hwy 73, Hwy 74, Hwy 621, etc. The stretch of Hwy 73 from Airline to I-10 is going to be a NIGHTMARE at peak traffic hours once everything is back in full swing and you have kids going to the new school.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:57 pm to
I live in the middle of it almost directly across 73 from the new school. Good news is my 6 year old will go to school close to the house and work, but we may never get out of the neighborhood during school hours. There is also another 250+ home development up for discussion at the council meeting on the 16th.
Posted by jaTigerfan
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
2091 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:58 pm to
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1-can’t build upward, no building can be taller than the state capitol (government reigns over you)


I mean, it's not like anyone's even trying to build upward in BR. What's the last 12+ story building to be built here?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

There is also another 250+ home development up for discussion at the council meeting on the 16th.


Where the hell are they figuring on stuffing that in?
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

All BS


OK, how many have you developed ?

quote:

Retention ponds are a scam. Most of them stay 75% full all of the time.


Exactly what they are designed to do ... overflow into the drainage system then stop once the rain has stopped to ease the pressure on the tributaries.

quote:

I'm not against new developments, but its not done correctly and is done as CHEAP as possible


you're conflating developing with building.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Retention ponds are a scam. Most of them stay 75% full all of the time.


Say it ain’t so

This is the purpose of a retention pond. To retain water.
quote:

retention basin, sometimes called a wet pond, wet detention basin or stormwater management pond, is an artificial pond with vegetation around the perimeter, and includes a permanent pool of water in its design.


You’re thinking of a detention pond
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 3:08 pm
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2336 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:09 pm to
On the Delaune family property, across from St. Johns church. The Delaunes kept their property while everyone else around them sold and the property was developed. They finally decide to sell and then the planning commission denies their project based on traffic on 73. They appealed to the Council.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9522 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:10 pm to
It’s the same way in nw Harris county. They build cheap and halfassed then get flooded. Don’t even have big coulees for all the water to go down. They just build build build. So dumb.
Posted by cajuntiger33
Member since Feb 2009
646 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

Retention ponds are a scam. Most of them stay 75% full all of the time.


This comment proves you don't know what you're talking about. Learn the difference between a retention and detention pond.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:12 pm to
Oh yea I heard about that. Didnt realize it was going to be that many houses.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36146 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:38 pm to
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Both of you are wrong, only a very small portion of the area where the subdivision is being built had water on it in 2016. Most of it was high and dry.

I’d be very surprised if any homes built in EBR after the 80s hit 4-8 feet of water in them.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2336 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 4:06 pm to
Thought I was responding to two people, but both comments were from the same person.

You are mostly correct. There were only a handful of developments that were built after the 1987 flood ordinance that flooded in 2016. Those that did were located near the Amite, Comite or Hurricane Creek. A couple of those received 4-6'. Generally, flooding in 16 was in developments that were built post war and pre-flood ordinance.
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