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Mosaic applying to expand their phosphogypsum storage in La -The Advocate has agenda

Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:05 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:05 am
The Advocate is clearly very strongly against it. It's hard to sift through their opinions to simply get the facts on this one. But essentially Mosaic is trying to expand their storage outward rather than upward because it's safer, especially with the quality of the soil in the area.

Expanding it would help the facility stay viable for another 50 years. But these large mounds (150' tall) are also an environmental concern to the Blind River area if these storage facilities ever break. So far the existing mount hasn't broken, but part of side closest to LA3125 has shifted and required repair. There is concern that the maintenance of these mounds would fall on the taxpayers if/when Mosaic can no longer maintain them.

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More than five years after its massive mound of radioactive mining waste began inexplicably shifting in St. James Parish, Mosaic Fertilizer is asking state regulators to declare complete its emergency efforts to halt the pile and to allow it to build a new wing that would cover more than 330 acres of farm land.

Barred from reusing the waste or dumping it in the Mississippi River, as companies once did, Mosaic has piled up the material for decades on hundreds of acres behind its Uncle Sam plant. The mound grew so high that a few years ago aviation warning lights were required near its roughly 200-foot peak.

Known as phosphogypsum, the chalky, whitish material laced with slightly radioactive elements and heavy metals is inextricably linked to Mosaic's production of phosphate fertilizer through the Uncle Sam plant and its sister Faustina facility along the river.








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Gypsum is left over from turning mined phosphate rock into phosphoric acid, which is used in the process to make Mosaic's fertilizer across the river at the Faustina plant, company officials say.

But, for every ton of phosphoric acid made at Uncle Sam, 5.5 tons of waste gypsum are left over, Mosaic says in regulatory papers.

Visible from the Sunshine Bridge, the waste gypsum is pumped as a slurry from the Uncle Sam plant up into large lakes atop various levels of the huge mound near Convent, gradually raising the height of the pile.

Probably in late 2018, the waste pile began shifting, coming to regulators' attention in January 2019 and prompting emergency measures to slow the mound's northward movement toward La. 3214.



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The new wing would start in a cane field in front of the current waste pile and along La. 3214 and eventually be stacked against the northern slope of the pile that was moving, according to schematics in regulatory filings.

Mosaic officials say the weight and pressure of the new wing should help halt any more movement in the north slope, while giving the weak spot underground time to squeeze down and stiffen further under the pressure of the existing pile.


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"We’ve had operations in St. James Parish for 55 years. Today, on both sides of the river, we employ a total of 300 people plus another 200 contractors," said Jackie Barron, Mosaic spokeswoman. "Many of those family members have called the parish home for generations. The extension allows us to continue to do the important work we started five decades ago, producing a critical source of domestic fertilizer relied on by farmers across the country."
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 12:15 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150583 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:06 am to
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phosphogypsum

Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18260 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:06 am to
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phosphogypsum

I thought this was some kind of creative slur towards gay gypsies
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:11 am to
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I thought this was some kind of creative slur towards gay gypsies



It is. But it's also a byproduct of making fertilizer.
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12350 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:19 am to
A no brainer. Let them expand out rather than up. Up is stupid and dangerous. Not the best managed site I've been to but some great people. Shutting it down over gyp stack permitting would be insane; and won't happen. The Advocate can frick off on this one.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25318 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:24 am to
Yeah it’s already there. Let them broaden it without expanding upward on the condition that money is set aside to maintain it/seal it up after it’s no longer needed.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
6533 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:42 am to
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Barred from reusing the waste


Why are they barred from reusing/recycling the waste? If they could safely re-use it to reduce its quantity, why are they not allowed to do so?
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 9:44 am
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8607 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:46 am to
I guess turning the waste into sheet rock and sending it to China at a cheap price isn't contemplated?
Posted by sosaysmorvant
River Parishes, LA
Member since Feb 2008
1308 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:53 am to
They should use the stuff as fill for road beds and shite. Free ninety nine.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21182 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:16 am to
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A no brainer. Let them expand out rather than up. Up is stupid and dangerous.


This.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7212 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:17 am to
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Why are they barred from reusing/recycling the waste? If they could safely re-use it to reduce its quantity, why are they not allowed to do so?


The trace radiation is the hold up apparently
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2654 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:27 am to
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I guess turning the waste into sheet rock and sending it to China at a cheap price isn't contemplated



(I bet many forgot that China did exactly this to us about 15 years ago)
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 12:11 pm to
The Advocate trying on new titles for this article. All more slanted and dishonest and alarmist than the one before it.

Kind of nuts how far that paper has fallen. They aren't even trying to hide their agenda anymore.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25318 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 12:16 pm to
If they were honest, they’d report that the company wants to expand it outward rather than upward to reduce instability and assuage environmental concerns.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21182 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 12:18 pm to
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Kind of nuts how far that paper has fallen. They aren't even trying to hide their agenda anymore.


Over the past decade, they went from simply left-leaning with some still decent reporting to all out war against the oil & gas and petrochemical industries. Yet they likely sit in that building off I-10 wondering why they now have to beg and grovel for subscribers.
Posted by Tigah D
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1407 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:02 pm to
Saw the headline on the paper and told my wife this was a huge piece of sensationalist crap. They're following protocols and permitting processes with LDEQ, but The Advocate doing all it can to sound alarms for no good reason.

I work in this realm, the permitting process is there for a reason. I can't speak to the challenges they've had with the stability but they'll have to answer for that for sure, and expanding outward and not taller is part of it. Making phosphoric acid out of phosphate is just a really wasteful process.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:11 pm to
Sending it to China to make wallboard would be good payback for the contaminated drywall they sent us but I doubt they will fall for it
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37461 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:16 pm to
In 500-1000 years, maybe longer, after the sites that these phosphogypsum storage mounds are on will be abandoned and the metal will have eroded away, all that will be left are these 1/2 mile long, 1/4 mile wide, hundred foot tall perfectly symmetrical mounds containing acidic and low level naturally occurring radioactive material in them.

Archeologists will rediscover these mounds, now away from the Mississippi River, and ponder what purpose they had. What grand structures sat atop them; temples, centers of governance, cities, military strongholds? There will be great debate and vehement arguments over the topic.

In the end, it’s just the most efficient way to store our trash.
Posted by austin2015
Member since Feb 2015
560 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:19 pm to
Living in cancer alley sucks
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:21 pm to
Imagine a newspaper being concerned over the possible failure of a waste site that contains heavy metals and radioactive waste by a company that has a sketchy history.

Like the state of Louisiana this board has way too much influence of the oil and gas sector. The are less trustworthy than a crack addict, yet everyone acts as if they are the Catholic Church. (Maybe not a good comparison either )
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