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re: Louisiana judge operating modern-day debtors’ prison
Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:47 am to WalkingTurtles
Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:47 am to WalkingTurtles
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Garnish their wages or seize it from their income taxes
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 11:49 am to Hammertime
Seriously watch the Oliver story on this stuff.
I'm sure there are plenty trying to beat the system, but the current system is idiotic.
I'm sure there are plenty trying to beat the system, but the current system is idiotic.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 12:03 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Turble
Posted on 6/22/16 at 12:06 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Have the brokedick pick up litter on the side of the road for a few weekends.
This seems reasonable to me. Make them work it off. Don't cost Hammertime more taxpayer money as they get three hots and a cot.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 12:14 pm to Artie Rome
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This seems reasonable to me. Make them work it off. Don't cost Hammertime more taxpayer money as they get three hots and a cot.
That's because that's how it should be. If you're too poor to pay, they can find something to work off the fines. If they don't work those community service hours, then I understand locking them up.
There are some seriously defective minds itt.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 12:19 pm to Hammertime
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So they arguing that only people with money should go to jail when they don't pay fines? How are they supposed to punish the people without money?
I don't see the incentive of putting them in jail, costing the city even more money. Maybe they could go the route of offering income adjusted payment plans or wage garnishment - or offer a weekend work plan to pay off the debt. All of those seem like better solutions than tossing people in jail, where they're sure to not be able to pay the debt. Once all of those solutions are exhausted/turned down, sure, jail might be the only means to force their hand.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 6/22/16 at 12:25 pm to tke857
Bearden v. Georgia, 461 U.S. 660 (1983)
Posted on 6/22/16 at 12:27 pm to Hammertime
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So they arguing that only people with money should go to jail when they don't pay fines? How are they supposed to punish the people without money?
It is actually unconstitutional to jail someone for not having the means to pay court fees/fines
The goal isn't to punish someone for being poor, it is to punish someone for disobeying the law. There are plenty of ways to do this without adding unauthorized extension fees and jailing people unconstitutionally.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 6/22/16 at 12:30 pm to AUbagman
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costing the city even more money
My guess is the broke arse city doesn't pay for incarceration costs. They likely have a grant that allows them to make money off of people in jail.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:05 pm to Artie Rome
The state pays local fiefdoms to imprison people. Thats why most state legislators have close family members on Sheriff office payrolls. They scratch each other's back.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 1:53 pm to GenesChin
Well, you can either pay the fine or do the time. Those have always been the two options. How is that unconstitutional?
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:09 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
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How about don't break the law if you cannot afford to handle the consequences
This is bullshite. I have a couple of no seat belt tickets through no fault of my own.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:11 pm to bencoleman
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I have a couple of no seat belt tickets through no fault of my own.
If you don't wear a seat belt it is YOUR fault.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:11 pm to Hammertime
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Garnish their wages or seize it from their income taxes
quote:Say what you really want to say, baw.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:13 pm to Hammertime
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pay the fine or do the time
Do you know how stupid you sound?
So you might have an extra $200 around. Jack Willy is broke and gets the same ticket. So you have the money to pay. He doesn't. Now what? You'd rather pay his fine and court costs and to keep him in jail?
Your anger is biting you in the a-hole.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:15 pm to Hammertime
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Well, you can either pay the fine or do the time. Those have always been the two options. How is that unconstitutional?
LINK
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(a) If a State determines a fine or restitution to be the appropriate and adequate penalty for the crime, it may not thereafter imprison a person solely because he lacked the resources to pay it. Williams v. Illinois, 399 U. S. 235
And setting up a payment plan can greatly increase the price of the fine
2 parking tickets for less than $200. Woman pays $500+ yet still owes another $500 due to fees and other fines. That is absurd
Failing to pay a fine can result in having your driver's licence suspended. Makes sense...you can't pay the fine and now you can't get to work.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:34 pm to Tigers_Saints
You get a choice when you get convicted. It is either pay the fine or go to jail
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:45 pm to Artie Rome
yeah, when the DAs collude with the police and lie under oath, Plattsmeir needs to come in and rolls some heads. No excuse for that BS.
Go to any City Court in the State and you will see hundreds of poors stuck in the system, but most of them do not get jailed.
Go to any City Court in the State and you will see hundreds of poors stuck in the system, but most of them do not get jailed.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:48 pm to tke857
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including a man fined for stealing $5 worth of food to feed his family,
This is such bullshite. quote:
Southern Poverty Law Center
Oh, wait, now I see why.
Posted on 6/22/16 at 2:49 pm to TigerGman
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And if they don't pay it?
Well you aren't going to save money by putting them in jail
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