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Livingston Parish is trying to improve their zoning and development guidelines

Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:16 pm
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16864 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:16 pm
Apparently locals are really pissed off. But so far what they are proposing likely won't change anything.

So Livingston and Ascension had development moratoriums at some pointe over the past couple of years, often in response to a proposed neighborhood by Horton or other home builders (or even a rumor of one). I think West Baton Rouge cracked down on this at some point to write in more strict rules, but I don't think it was a moratorium. Pointe Coupee had a moratorium for about 60 days while they adopted tougher rules on sewers, drainage, and building standards.

How does this all impact home prices and economic competitiveness in Louisiana? Seems like that would make it harder for people to afford new homes?


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Under pressure over floods, traffic, here's what Livingston Parish is doing about development
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Under pressure from residents upset about traffic and flooding, the Livingston Parish Council has pushed past months of disagreement to approve a battery of laws limiting the construction of new neighborhoods.

Those ordinances include: requiring developers to submit studies early in the planning process that show how their projects will affect traffic, drainage, fire protection and schools; reducing the number of lots to 2.5 per acre; and regulating development on wetlands, among others.

As the parish's population has exploded over the last decade, so has the arrival of massive neighborhoods and apartment complexes built to satisfy the influx of newcomers. Many citizens in rural areas of the parish fear their communities will be irrevocably altered for the worse if the suburban sprawl continues unabated.


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Council members have been caught between increasingly irate constituents, who fear the developments will overwhelm their roads, schools and precarious drainage infrastructure, and developers, who say they are following the letter of the law for their projects. The tension has led to heated, hours-long debates during council meetings.

To settle the issue, the council recently imposed a 60-day moratorium on major new construction, giving it time to set new rules for "responsible growth." In the meantime, members have spent weeks workshopping ways to appease both residents and developers.

Last week, they approved almost a dozen new ordinances designed to toughen guidelines for development while still allowing for growth.


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The construction industry has criticized other, significantly longer construction moratoriums in other parishes — like the one in Ascension, which lasted almost a year. Builders argue moratoriums lead to a shortage in housing and restrict the growth of the local economy.

In Livingston, developer organizations have been cautious not to be overly critical of the council in the wake of the moratorium. Instead, they have encouraged solutions that will lead to a quick resolution.


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Zito said some of the changes will positively affect everyone long-term. She pointed to new rules requiring minimum road widths — an effort to reduce traffic and make roads safer — and a new definition of wetlands that encourages conservation.

Some of the other ordinances require detention ponds to be more accesible for flood maintenance and mandate more entrances for larger neighborhoods, so all the cars don't pour into one place.

Parish Presidnet Layton Ricks lauded the council for coming together to satisfy as many people as possible amid unprecedented growth.

"The council has done a good job in trying to see into the future by enacting some ordinances that I think will make it a little more stringent on development but still allow it to develop,” he said Tuesday.


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Last year, the council passed more than a dozen new zoning categories for the unincorporated areas of the parish, though they won't be enforced until they are mapped. Council members have said they plan for zoning to be fully adopted by the end of the year.

Zoning rules were a significant change for the once-rural parish, which prided itself on its laissez-faire approach to business and property rights.


On the other hand, a laissez-faire approach to this only guarantees that local taxpayers will eventually have to cough up cash to fix the roads, sewers, and drainage issues.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 1:18 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95633 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:22 pm to
Having low standards instead of no standards is technically an improvement for LP.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16864 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:23 pm to
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Having low standards instead of no standards is technically an improvement for LP.



Yeah. It will be interesting to see how things grow and transition from the "rural format" to "suburb".

You can see nicer, new developments in places like Gonzales or northern AP that are directly adjacent to absolute crap that was thrown together 40-50 years ago. That's what Livingston will probably end up looking like for a while. Eventually the trailer parks and old metal buildings get leveled and replaced with something else I guess.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
13881 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:24 pm to
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Livingston Parish
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New policy - If you can't build out, build up








Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95633 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:26 pm to
Reminds me of the book version of Ready Player One, where the main character grew up in the “stacks”, which was effectively a slum of trailers stacked on each other in Oklahoma.
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
4620 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:26 pm to
Top photo looks like a place I used to drive by regularly in Phenix City, Alabama.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422561 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:30 pm to
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On the other hand, a laissez-faire approach to this only guarantees that local taxpayers will eventually have to cough up cash to fix the roads, sewers, and drainage issues.


This ignores the bigger issue: South LA is getting extremely close to losing homeowners insurance services.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25358 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:31 pm to
From the looks of that picture, maybe they should consider mast arms for traffic lights, buried electrical wires, signage restrictions, wider roads and arteries, and maybe a decorative street light or two.

All of those are things that Livingston chooses not to focus on. And they never will.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
13881 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:33 pm to
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Top photo looks like a place I used to drive by regularly in Phenix City, Alabama


It actually is a photo from Alabama
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6581 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:48 pm to
Anytime the government regulates something that 'something' increases in price. I 'm not for regulations but something must be done to address the flooding issue.
At this point LP , or the Free State of Livingston, is attempting to dress a gunshot wound with a band aid.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71411 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:56 pm to
Watson is getting killed, my parents internet, gas, and other stuff is a shite show right now because they keep putting in cheap housing and not upgrading the grids.
Posted by Magnus
San Diego
Member since Sep 2019
1294 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:58 pm to
I haven't lived in br in a few years...Are people from BR leaving to LP
Posted by Meezy
DA Bomb Squad
Member since Apr 2005
6956 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:03 pm to
The amount of traffic in Watson is ridiculous. All the DR Horton and DSLD houses have killed the small town vibe it once had
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
1475 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:10 pm to
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Builders argue moratoriums lead to a shortage in housing and restrict the growth of the local economy.

I’d be more sympathetic if the developers were upfront and just said that the moratoriums are getting in the way of them making cash but to act like they are motivated by anything but personal gain is is a waste of time. This is a rare situation where the politicians aren’t the scummiest people in the room.

Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11216 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:29 pm to
New guidelines for building and maintaining meth labs?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95633 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 4:41 pm to
They wanted Gus Fring and his guys to consult but they proved unavailable.
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