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re: Literary analysis question
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:05 am to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:05 am to TbirdSpur2010
Ok, i have a confession to make. I wrote the passage referenced in the OP. I was curious to see how people would analyze it. Scruffy, you had great ideas, but I didn't take much of what you analyzed into account when I wrote the passage.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:06 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Scruffy feels cheated.
After he went out of his way to make himself sound smart.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 1:08 am
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:07 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
killed himself
ETA: It just mentions a "battle" but isn't specific. I think the reader is supposed to fill in the blank with his own interpretation.
ETA: It just mentions a "battle" but isn't specific. I think the reader is supposed to fill in the blank with his own interpretation.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 1:10 am
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:08 am to Scruffy
quote:It shows how so much of what we "analyze" was not even on the mind of the person writing whatever you are analyzing. That is my biggest criticism of certain English courses.
Scruffy feels cheated.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:09 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
I wrote the passage referenced in the OP.
You motherfricker
Nice job, though
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:14 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
I wrote the passage referenced in the OP.
good stuff
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:26 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
i read the first sentence and stopped, thinking this was Brokeback Mountain, the novel.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:39 am to McLemore
just messing. I'll give you a quick 2:30amEST critique:
i like the suspense here, and the questions this sentence raises. However, I would expand it. Make it last longer. Substitute "soft evening light" with more showing, less telling (pardon the Stein). How do you evoke softness? evening? light? don't tell us those shortcuts. Make us see them. Experience them.
again, good suspense, but the adverb falls flat. when in doubt delete adverbs. especially those ending in "ly." The "proved" verb is distracting. It is a bit of a harbinger, but it's a stop and read word in this context. you're drawing attention to the writing and away from the scene itself. same with spectators. I appreciate the metaphor, in the abstract, but your reader will not. Think about captivating, instead of writing.
pretty much the same comment as above. You need to have real action going on by this point. You don't have to compromise literary integrity to create a scene with action in it. And I'm not talking about Carl Weathers. But take what you just said, preserve the message, and make it come alive.
I guess all enemies are odious. If not, then show us the irony. weave in your abstractions. Make us guess and wonder, but based on what people do, don't do, say, withhold. You're just telling us how someone feels and thinks and what he or she (you say "it," which is the most interesting part of this sentence) covets. You need to take this sentence and create an entire story around it. Why are you telling us this?
borders on overly flowery language, but could definitely work in the context of a larger scene.
by far the best sentence of the passage.
Take your writing to the next level. You have a gift with words, but I would concentrate less on making things sound pretty and more on quickening your ideas into characters and converting the words into action, emotions, and tension that hits us without knowing we're reading.
quote:
Under the soft evening light, he surrendered.
i like the suspense here, and the questions this sentence raises. However, I would expand it. Make it last longer. Substitute "soft evening light" with more showing, less telling (pardon the Stein). How do you evoke softness? evening? light? don't tell us those shortcuts. Make us see them. Experience them.
quote:
The willow trees and the hanging moss proved to be good spectators throughout the surprisingly calm ordeal.
again, good suspense, but the adverb falls flat. when in doubt delete adverbs. especially those ending in "ly." The "proved" verb is distracting. It is a bit of a harbinger, but it's a stop and read word in this context. you're drawing attention to the writing and away from the scene itself. same with spectators. I appreciate the metaphor, in the abstract, but your reader will not. Think about captivating, instead of writing.
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No words were written down; the entire concession was mental and implicit. He just couldn't fight the battle anymore. It decayed him, caused him to abandon his friends, making his entire existence an empty dirt lot.
pretty much the same comment as above. You need to have real action going on by this point. You don't have to compromise literary integrity to create a scene with action in it. And I'm not talking about Carl Weathers. But take what you just said, preserve the message, and make it come alive.
quote:
His odious enemy was never going to give up what it will hold captive for eternity.
I guess all enemies are odious. If not, then show us the irony. weave in your abstractions. Make us guess and wonder, but based on what people do, don't do, say, withhold. You're just telling us how someone feels and thinks and what he or she (you say "it," which is the most interesting part of this sentence) covets. You need to take this sentence and create an entire story around it. Why are you telling us this?
quote:
So, with the evening sun spreading orange light over the field and hills beyond before being engulfed by the horizon, and with the drooping sage-like willows turning to silhouettes in the innocent and fresh darkness,
borders on overly flowery language, but could definitely work in the context of a larger scene.
quote:
the surrender was signed off with a flash, a loud bang, and a short time later, the sound of sirens.
by far the best sentence of the passage.
Take your writing to the next level. You have a gift with words, but I would concentrate less on making things sound pretty and more on quickening your ideas into characters and converting the words into action, emotions, and tension that hits us without knowing we're reading.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:47 am to McLemore
quote:Yeah, I was getting that for a second with the "surrendering."
i read the first sentence and stopped, thinking this was Brokeback Mountain, the novel.
Nice dissection. I wouldn't have graded his paper quite like that, but he's kind of a drama queen, so I'll go ahead and score it.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 1:56 am
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:52 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Sounds like a suicide. Ya'll have obviously gotten that far.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 1:54 am
Posted on 2/21/14 at 2:16 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
It shows how so much of what we "analyze" was not even on the mind of the person writing whatever you are analyzing. That is my biggest criticism of certain English courses.
I disagree. you wrote this purposely to deceive people. most writings that people analyze are written as a form of expression, not deception.
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