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re: Literary analysis question

Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:05 am to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:05 am to
Ok, i have a confession to make. I wrote the passage referenced in the OP. I was curious to see how people would analyze it. Scruffy, you had great ideas, but I didn't take much of what you analyzed into account when I wrote the passage.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:06 am to


Scruffy feels cheated.

After he went out of his way to make himself sound smart.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 1:08 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56317 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:07 am to
killed himself

ETA: It just mentions a "battle" but isn't specific. I think the reader is supposed to fill in the blank with his own interpretation.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 1:10 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69289 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:08 am to
quote:

Scruffy feels cheated.
It shows how so much of what we "analyze" was not even on the mind of the person writing whatever you are analyzing. That is my biggest criticism of certain English courses.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:09 am to
quote:

I wrote the passage referenced in the OP.


You motherfricker

Nice job, though
Posted by Ellis Dee
G-Lane aka Pakistan
Member since Nov 2013
6862 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:14 am to
quote:

I wrote the passage referenced in the OP.


good stuff
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31485 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:26 am to
i read the first sentence and stopped, thinking this was Brokeback Mountain, the novel.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31485 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:39 am to
just messing. I'll give you a quick 2:30amEST critique:

quote:

Under the soft evening light, he surrendered.


i like the suspense here, and the questions this sentence raises. However, I would expand it. Make it last longer. Substitute "soft evening light" with more showing, less telling (pardon the Stein). How do you evoke softness? evening? light? don't tell us those shortcuts. Make us see them. Experience them.



quote:

The willow trees and the hanging moss proved to be good spectators throughout the surprisingly calm ordeal.


again, good suspense, but the adverb falls flat. when in doubt delete adverbs. especially those ending in "ly." The "proved" verb is distracting. It is a bit of a harbinger, but it's a stop and read word in this context. you're drawing attention to the writing and away from the scene itself. same with spectators. I appreciate the metaphor, in the abstract, but your reader will not. Think about captivating, instead of writing.

quote:

No words were written down; the entire concession was mental and implicit. He just couldn't fight the battle anymore. It decayed him, caused him to abandon his friends, making his entire existence an empty dirt lot.


pretty much the same comment as above. You need to have real action going on by this point. You don't have to compromise literary integrity to create a scene with action in it. And I'm not talking about Carl Weathers. But take what you just said, preserve the message, and make it come alive.


quote:

His odious enemy was never going to give up what it will hold captive for eternity.


I guess all enemies are odious. If not, then show us the irony. weave in your abstractions. Make us guess and wonder, but based on what people do, don't do, say, withhold. You're just telling us how someone feels and thinks and what he or she (you say "it," which is the most interesting part of this sentence) covets. You need to take this sentence and create an entire story around it. Why are you telling us this?


quote:

So, with the evening sun spreading orange light over the field and hills beyond before being engulfed by the horizon, and with the drooping sage-like willows turning to silhouettes in the innocent and fresh darkness,


borders on overly flowery language, but could definitely work in the context of a larger scene.

quote:

the surrender was signed off with a flash, a loud bang, and a short time later, the sound of sirens.


by far the best sentence of the passage.

Take your writing to the next level. You have a gift with words, but I would concentrate less on making things sound pretty and more on quickening your ideas into characters and converting the words into action, emotions, and tension that hits us without knowing we're reading.


Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56317 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:47 am to
quote:

i read the first sentence and stopped, thinking this was Brokeback Mountain, the novel.
Yeah, I was getting that for a second with the "surrendering."

Nice dissection. I wouldn't have graded his paper quite like that, but he's kind of a drama queen, so I'll go ahead and score it.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 1:56 am
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
Member since Sep 2007
19748 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:52 am to
Sounds like a suicide. Ya'll have obviously gotten that far.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 1:54 am
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12046 posts
Posted on 2/21/14 at 2:16 am to
quote:

It shows how so much of what we "analyze" was not even on the mind of the person writing whatever you are analyzing. That is my biggest criticism of certain English courses.


I disagree. you wrote this purposely to deceive people. most writings that people analyze are written as a form of expression, not deception.
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