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re: Let's talk a little about cancer
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:43 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:43 pm to Darth_Vader
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Seeing how caner is a random mutation, I wonder when we'll get a form of caner that is beneficial.
This already happened.
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:44 pm to Caplewood
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Your angle of argument is greater than 90 degrees
I'm not arguing anything. I just prefer to see a beneficial cellular mutation rather than all the ones we've seen that tend to do things like kill us.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:44 pm to Pilot Tiger
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at best you are completely wrong and uninformed
Please, tell me more about your vast knowledge of every goings-on in every science lab around the world...
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:47 pm to FenrirTheBeard
I remember a thread about a high school kid finding a way to detect cancer very cheap about a year ago. It had like a 98% success rate and then cancer sniffing dogs, what happened to all that? The biggest key is detecting it early.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:47 pm to FenrirTheBeard
i dont debate crazy people because I lack patience for an endless back and forth where evidence disproving their idiotic beliefs is summarily dismissed
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:55 pm to Pilot Tiger
The point I'm trying to make is that it seems there is more benefit to the country in not having a cure than having one (money, population control). I have degrees in Biology and Chemistry, neither of which license me to being crazy, but give me a bit of insight into medicine and development.
I offer statistics and you say I have idiotic beliefs? Either offer substance to support what you believe, or STFU.
I offer statistics and you say I have idiotic beliefs? Either offer substance to support what you believe, or STFU.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:00 pm to FenrirTheBeard
I don't think govt is withholding cure. We wouldn't have all these vaccinations for other stuff if our govt or doctors operated like that just to make money. Besides, it would make more sense to hold back a vaccination than a cure since people would pay even bigger money to cure themselves of cancer than what they are paying currently for treatment. People will always get cancer so even having a cure won't cut into the money involved. Then again, I pulled most of what I just said out of my arse.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:01 pm to FenrirTheBeard
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Could we as a country afford a cure for cancer?
no
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:01 pm to FenrirTheBeard
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Let's talk a little about cancer
NO, FRICK CANCER
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:03 pm to FenrirTheBeard
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My thoughts are that we have a cure for cancer. Those with power have access, those who don’t, don’t.
Lol
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:03 pm to windshieldman
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I remember a thread about a high school kid finding a way to detect cancer very cheap about a year ago. It had like a 98% success rate and then cancer sniffing dogs, what happened to all that? The biggest key is detecting it early.
I know that there's probably been at least 10 potential cures for cancer in my lifetime that have all apparently "died" in the lab. in fact, just the other day on the evening news they had another one that was scheduled to be testing for two more years. I suspect it will "die" there as well.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:04 pm to FenrirTheBeard
quote:I've been saying this for years.....
quote: My thoughts are that we have a cure for cancer. Those with power have access, those who don’t, don’t.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:07 pm to oldcharlie8
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I know that there's probably been at least 10 potential cures for cancer in my lifetime that have all apparently "died" in the lab. in fact, just the other day on the evening news they had another one that was scheduled to be testing for two more years. I suspect it will "die" there as well.
Yea no kidding, every year there is a breakthrough and you never hear about it again. I always wondered about training dogs to detect cancer since supposedly it has worked before. I don't know, like others have said, frick cancer.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:07 pm to oldcharlie8
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I know that there's probably been at least 10 potential cures for cancer in my lifetime that have all apparently "died" in the lab. in fact, just the other day on the evening news they had another one that was scheduled to be testing for two more years. I suspect it will "die" there as well.
It is all about repeatability. If it works in a couple trials the fails the next 5, it isn't going to work or get approved
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:09 pm to Caplewood
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Your angle of argument is greater than 90 degrees
Now you're just trying to be acute
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:09 pm to pointdog33
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It is all about repeatability. If it works in a couple trials the fails the next 5, it isn't going to work or get approved
This. Cancer is a complicated and person-specific disease. What works for one person may not work for another.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:16 pm to FenrirTheBeard
I'm sure there are drugs that treat or cure all kinds of diseases that should be readily available, but aren't because in our government's mind, they have not been tested enough. They won't approve mass production due to fear of lawsuits. Lawsuits are the main things that hold back advances in medicine.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:24 pm to T
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Lawsuits are the main things that hold back advances in medicine.
This is the reason why if one person out of thousands dies on a drug trial from something completely unrelated to the drug, the drug has to be labeled as "may cause death".
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:28 pm to FenrirTheBeard
Notice how cancer rates are increasing in healthy countries. You are more likely to get cancer when you are old. When we have cures for the diseases that kill people in 3rd world countries, we live longer, which increases your risk of getting cancer.
I don't get the "we're hiding a cure" crowd either. What about all the other diseases that used to kill people that we've found cures for? Ever thought that maybe cancer is a real sonuvabitch and that our medical science isn't as perfect as you think?
I don't get the "we're hiding a cure" crowd either. What about all the other diseases that used to kill people that we've found cures for? Ever thought that maybe cancer is a real sonuvabitch and that our medical science isn't as perfect as you think?
Posted on 4/21/14 at 2:43 pm to FenrirTheBeard
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The point I'm trying to make is that it seems there is more benefit to the country in not having a cure than having one (money, population control).
by that logic, why cure anything?
There are many different types of cancer. The doctor isn't writing a script you fill at walgreens to cure your stage three pancreatic cancer. Saying "cure" is an oversimplification that supports your silly argument.
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