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Law Enforcement/Fire Dept question
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:01 pm
So it appears most of these have a paid multi-month training requirement before entering the field. If you complete the training and decide the job is not for you is there any punishment they can give other than reclaiming the hiring incentive?
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:17 pm to RandySavage
You won’t be able to get those special deals from the donut shop but that’s about it.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:24 pm to RandySavage
Nah. Just walk away when you want to.
Those jobs aren't for just anyone. These depts. don't want to force you into something you realize you don't like. For example, some want to leave when they have to go in the wrong direction when the ship hits the sand.
Those jobs aren't for just anyone. These depts. don't want to force you into something you realize you don't like. For example, some want to leave when they have to go in the wrong direction when the ship hits the sand.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 2:25 pm to RandySavage
Full pension at 20 years though
Posted on 8/3/23 at 3:40 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Full pension at 20 years though
Try 30
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:14 pm to RandySavage
Most agencies make you sign a contract saying you will pay a certain ( based on the cost of all that training) amount back if you leave. Some even pro rate it over a two year period.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:15 pm to Mushroom1968
Most pensions are now 33 years.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:18 pm to LSUFootballFANATIC
I believe you tap out at 30 for 99.9% but can do 3 years on the drop, as far as fire dept.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:19 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Full pension at 20 years though
It's pretty weak at 20, especially if you're still pretty young. Most cops and firefighters do 30+.
As for the training, reputable police departments send recruits to the academy and pay them while they're there. Most reputable FDs will require EMT/Paramedic certification to even be hired. There's no penalty for quitting.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:32 pm to RandySavage
I can see some podunk town making them pay it back but no legitimate agency requires a recruit to pay back expenses if they quit.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 5:18 pm to RandySavage
Go shop around and see which dept you maybe interested and do the math on them.
Federal fire and rescue is a pretty sweet gig if you live by or would be interested in moving where you can get on.
You have to fit the job as well. This shite isnt for everyone and you will learn will quick.
A good way to see if you fit is join a reserve program and give it a shot. No pay but the training will make you a "shoo-in" if you decide to make a career.
Federal fire and rescue is a pretty sweet gig if you live by or would be interested in moving where you can get on.
You have to fit the job as well. This shite isnt for everyone and you will learn will quick.
A good way to see if you fit is join a reserve program and give it a shot. No pay but the training will make you a "shoo-in" if you decide to make a career.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:13 pm to RandySavage
In law enforcement if you’re hired and have no previous experience, you sign a contract. It basically says if you don’t stay for 2 years ( or whatever that agency requires) you have to pay back a predetermined amount ( usually cost of academy and other certifications)
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:15 pm to RandySavage
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So it appears most of these have a paid multi-month training requirement before entering the field. If you complete the training and decide the job is not for you is there any punishment they can give other than reclaiming the hiring incentive?
Don’t cheat on the tests.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:17 pm to TigersSEC2010
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I can see some podunk town making them pay it back
Because people figured out they can hire on and get POST then apply at larger agencies
A small dept requiring it doesn’t mean they are broke, it means they don’t have money to waste
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:25 pm to Mushroom1968
It’s no longer 3.33% a year (plus up to 4 on the drop). It went down about 5 years ago to 3%, which makes it 33 years to get 100% (plus you can do 3 on the drop). I currently run Internal affairs/HR for a sheriff’s office. I deal with this daily. Some PD’s might still be 30, but all Sheriff’s offices are under a private retirement fund, and all of them are now at 33 years.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:39 pm to Mushroom1968
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Try 30
Shiiiit. I can't do nothing for 30 years straight. Kudos to anyone who has
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:10 pm to RandySavage
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So it appears most of these have a paid multi-month training requirement before entering the field. If you complete the training and decide the job is not for you is there any punishment they can give other than reclaiming the hiring incentive?
I am very familiar with what goes on in fire and law enforcement academies, and believe me, no one would do that for the pay with plans to quit upon graduation. They are basically weed-out programs with the intent of seeing who will stay with the department.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:10 pm to LSUFootballFANATIC
I am curious does since the Sheriff’s dept retirement works vs larger city police dept’s retirement?
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:34 pm to johnnyrocket
Happy to answer any question, but can you restate it please?
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