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Just how great was the Polio Vaccine?
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:53 am
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:53 am
(Sorry for the wall of words)
I keep seeing people reference the polio vaccine as an example of why we should get the Covid Vaccine. They use it as an example of how we used science to eradicate the scourge of polio.
I read a book Dr. Mary's Monkey, based in New Orleans and is about a lot of things ranging from the Murder of Dr. Mary to a conspiracy by the CIA to murder Castro. Throw in JFK's assassination and Lee Harvey's involvement in it and you get a pretty interesting book. Supposedly the book is based in Fact and not Fiction makes it more interesting, at least to me anyway.
According to the book the CIA planned to murder Castro using a polio vaccine that was known to increase the chances of cancer... Something to do with using a certain type of monkey to generate the vaccine and certain monkey cells being transferred to humans in the process of inoculating the masses, and the fact that the entire vaccine process was rushed.
I decided to look into it a little and there is a wealth of information out there and I came across this article.
LINK
98 million persons in the United States Exposed... in 1960 the population of the United States was 181 million. Half of the population was exposed to (injected with) a potential cancer-causing agent. Deaths caused by Cancer seem to have a dramatic uptick in the 50s, 60s, and 70s compared to the earlier half of the century.
The fact that I read this book about so many things. Including the rushed polio vaccine, that caused cancer in the 50s. The fact that there is a lot of information about this rushed polio vaccine out there and that it wasn't found for 6 years at least... just makes me smile and shake my head every time someone uses the "what about the Polio Vaccine" reason for the Covid Vaccine.
I will, I think, decline this current rushed vaccine.
I keep seeing people reference the polio vaccine as an example of why we should get the Covid Vaccine. They use it as an example of how we used science to eradicate the scourge of polio.
I read a book Dr. Mary's Monkey, based in New Orleans and is about a lot of things ranging from the Murder of Dr. Mary to a conspiracy by the CIA to murder Castro. Throw in JFK's assassination and Lee Harvey's involvement in it and you get a pretty interesting book. Supposedly the book is based in Fact and not Fiction makes it more interesting, at least to me anyway.
According to the book the CIA planned to murder Castro using a polio vaccine that was known to increase the chances of cancer... Something to do with using a certain type of monkey to generate the vaccine and certain monkey cells being transferred to humans in the process of inoculating the masses, and the fact that the entire vaccine process was rushed.
I decided to look into it a little and there is a wealth of information out there and I came across this article.
LINK
quote:
Background: The presence of SV40 in monkey cell cultures used in the preparation of the polio vaccine from 1955 through 1961 is well documented. Investigations have consistently demonstrated the oncogenic behavior of SV40 in animal models. Early epidemiologic studies were inadequate in demonstrating an increase in cancer incidence associated with contaminated vaccine. Recently, investigators have provided persuasive evidence that SV40 is present in human ependymomas, choroid plexus tumors, bone tumors, and mesotheliomas, however, the etiologic role of the virus in tumorigenesis has not been established.
Materials and methods: Using data from SEER, we analyzed the incidence of brain tumors, bone tumors, and mesotheliomas from 1973-1993 and the possible relationship of these tumors with the administration of the SV40 contaminated vaccine.
Results: Our analysis indicates increased rates of ependymomas (37%), osteogenic sarcomas (26%), other bone tumors (34%) and mesothelioma (90%) among those in the exposed as compared to the unexposed birth cohort.
Conclusions: These data suggest that there may be an increased incidence of certain cancers among the 98 million persons exposed to contaminated polio vaccine in the U.S.; further investigations are clearly justified.
98 million persons in the United States Exposed... in 1960 the population of the United States was 181 million. Half of the population was exposed to (injected with) a potential cancer-causing agent. Deaths caused by Cancer seem to have a dramatic uptick in the 50s, 60s, and 70s compared to the earlier half of the century.
The fact that I read this book about so many things. Including the rushed polio vaccine, that caused cancer in the 50s. The fact that there is a lot of information about this rushed polio vaccine out there and that it wasn't found for 6 years at least... just makes me smile and shake my head every time someone uses the "what about the Polio Vaccine" reason for the Covid Vaccine.
I will, I think, decline this current rushed vaccine.
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:53 am to fredswaves
Polio was actually dangerous, especially to children.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:53 am to fredswaves
About 350 percent great... vaccine board.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 8:54 am
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:56 am to fredswaves
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:56 am to VADawg
quote:not in America it wasn’t
Polio was actually dangerous, especially to children.
At the time of the vaccine, roughly 500 Americans were dying of polio annually. That’s right, only 500
Better hygiene and sanitation already wiped polio out here
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 8:58 am
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:59 am to lsupride87
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not in America it wasn’t
At the time of the vaccine, roughly 500 Americans were dying of polio annually. That’s right, only 500
bullshite. My Uncle had polio and his legs were crippled from it. He wore braces all his life.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:00 am to TigerGman
quote:That sucks for him, but it’s anecdotal just like covid horror stories
bullshite. My Uncle had polio and his legs were crippled from it. He wore braces all his life.
Polio was not a “Major” issue in America during the vaccine effort
In the worst years you had 1,000 or so deaths and 5-10k cases of crippling
If you posted that as the covid numbers everyone e would say “that’s like .0000005%”
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 9:04 am
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:00 am to lsupride87
I wasn't talking about Polio... I was talking about the vaccine for polio.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 9:01 am
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:02 am to fredswaves
Sir, this is a Wendy's 
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:02 am to fredswaves
He read a book, abs thinks it is responsible for an uptick in cancer. You are now retroactively a dumbarse for getting the polio vaccine.
There ya have it folks.
Wish you had gotten shaken baby syndrome.
There ya have it folks.
Wish you had gotten shaken baby syndrome.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:09 am to SwampGar
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He read a book, abs thinks it is responsible for an uptick in cancer. You are now retroactively a dumbarse for getting the polio vaccine.
There ya have it folks.
Wish you had gotten shaken baby syndrome.
In all seriousness, SV40 is a real issue. this is a virus known to cause cancer and is used in modern day cancer research, especially for testing cancer treatments. It cannot be denied that SV40 ended up in several million vaccines.
The only question is was it done on purpose or was it an accident?
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:15 am to fredswaves
Polio eventually was overcome by advances in sanitation, however it was horrible for people who got it. The vaccine did wipe it out which was good because getting it rarely resulted in full recovery - death or crippling was almost certain.
Unlike the covid shot and the flu shot, polio shot worked.
Not sure any respiratory, rhino or nasal virus has ever been effectively addressed with a shot. Like the common cold, you will get it, it will be different for each person, treatment and prevention has always been the best approach, but people are going to get it and spread it.
Sadly the media, politicians and the medical profession in 2019-2020 through away all their past knowledge and commonsense in favor of control.
Unlike the covid shot and the flu shot, polio shot worked.
Not sure any respiratory, rhino or nasal virus has ever been effectively addressed with a shot. Like the common cold, you will get it, it will be different for each person, treatment and prevention has always been the best approach, but people are going to get it and spread it.
Sadly the media, politicians and the medical profession in 2019-2020 through away all their past knowledge and commonsense in favor of control.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:44 am to fredswaves
quote:
From 1955 to 1963, an estimated 10-30% of polio vaccines administered in the US were contaminated with simian virus 40 (SV40). The virus came from monkey kidney cell cultures used to make polio vaccines at that time.
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However, most studies looking at the relationship between SV40 and cancers are reassuring, finding no causal association between receipt of SV40-contaminated polio vaccine and development of cancer.
No worries - we administered millions of contaminated vaccines for 8 years but most studies show no casual relationship. But there is a conflict of interest when the bureaucracies in charge of health policies also control funding for the studies.
Can we imagine Fauci funding a study that could prove he has been wrong on his guidance?
CDC LINK
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:52 am to fredswaves
Polio MAINLY affected kids under 5years old.
The mortality rate for polio ranged from 5–15%.
1/200 lead to paralysis.
COVID brought kids 99 degree body temp for a few days and some could't taste their chicken nuggets.
Stop paying attention to anyone who compares Polio and COVID
The mortality rate for polio ranged from 5–15%.
1/200 lead to paralysis.
COVID brought kids 99 degree body temp for a few days and some could't taste their chicken nuggets.
Stop paying attention to anyone who compares Polio and COVID
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:05 am to fredswaves
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According to the book the CIA planned to murder Castro using a polio vaccine that was known to increase the chances of cancer.
This is not what the book says. I know because I just finished it. Yes, the initial polio vaccines were contaminated with monkey viruses and likely resulted in the cancer epidemic that no one is talking about today. However, this is not what Dr. Mary and Co. were working on in their secret labs in NOLA at the time. It's relevant only to show what type of medical research was being done at the time and what they could accomplish. They we irradiating monkey viruses to mutate them to create a cancer causing bio-weapon to kill Castro (presumably). Their work had little to do with the polio vaccine.
Great book BTW. Everyone here should read.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:30 am to fredswaves
While the polio vaccine contained a dead virus, there were problems in the late 1950s with some batches. The chemical used to kill the virus n the vaccine was not totally effective, and allowed some that took the vaccine to contract polio from it.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:57 am to Paul Redeker
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This is not what the book says. I know because I just finished it. Yes, the initial polio vaccines were contaminated with monkey viruses and likely resulted in the cancer epidemic that no one is talking about today. However, this is not what Dr. Mary and Co. were working on in their secret labs in NOLA at the time. It's relevant only to show what type of medical research was being done at the time and what they could accomplish. They we irradiating monkey viruses to mutate them to create a cancer causing bio-weapon to kill Castro (presumably). Their work had little to do with the polio vaccine.
Fair enough I read it a few years ago... obviously got some of the finer points a little jumbled. Thanks for getting the record straight. And you are right it is a great book everyone should read especially if you have any connection with New Orleans.
I was more focused on the whole cancer-causing problem with the vaccination, not so much about the storyline of the book. Did I remember correctly that the vaccine was also rushed?
Posted on 12/8/21 at 11:13 am to notsince98
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In all seriousness, SV40 is a real issue.
If you want to see some head explode, just say "SV40" whenever someone claims vaccines can't alter human DNA.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 11:16 am to fredswaves
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They use it as an example of how we used science to eradicate the scourge of polio.
The two major success stories for vaccines, polio and smallpox, were only successes because the diseases didn't have any animal reservoirs that could reintroduce it.
Not true for Covid.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 11:28 am to lsupride87
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In the worst years you had 1,000 or so deaths and 5-10k cases of crippling
LINK
In 1916 there were 7100 Polio deaths in the US and in 1952 there were 3200 polio deaths in the US and 58,000 cases
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