re: Joe Rogan Podcast with Bart Sibrel - who here believes the Moon Landing was a hoax?

That's the dumbest list of 'gotchas' I've ever seen = not one remotely germane comment in the entire list.

Not even note-worthy.

Hope you were not serious with the question. But I didn't note any semblance of sarcasm.

I think Joe did a good job of refuting that. Look there is no doubt that they did things to make stuff look better/cooler. They probably even staged some of the videos to make it look good on TV. Idk if we went to the moon or not but this guy seems like he is trying to sell books.

I wonder how many angry boomer heart attacks this thread caused

Next op will say that we shouldn’t give 90% of our tax dollars to Israel

ETA: and if you don’t believe the moon landing you’re racist because it was all black women doing the math or whatever

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No one is refuting or skeptical that it took off and was in low earth orbit and came back down into the ocean. Watch the video where they claim the earth is at this great distance while filming through the window. The say in the video that the camera is up against the glass when it’s actually at a distance and the cabin is dark in an effort to make the earth look small and 130,000 feet away. Why lie about that?

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So we can takeoff and land but can't get to the Moon?

It takes a special kind of idiot to think that,,

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Absolutely amazing that people still actually believe that the government tells them the truth. ??????

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No. But just becaue the Govt said something 60 years ago, that doesnt mean its fake by default.

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I question everything now.

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When Alex Jones turned out to be right on the "turning the frogs gay" thing. . .it fricked me up, ngl.

Since then, I question everything

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-Kennedy assasination -Iraq War second time (I actually was there in 2003) -Covid

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Add the Gulf of Tonkin to get us in the Vietnam War.

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But 1972? Haven’t been back for a little manned landing practice since? Hmmmm

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It was much more valuable to take the money needed to go hop around the moon collecting rocks, and instead launch 1000 satellites to spy on Russians and eventually Americans.

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Its going to suck if fast spreading virus that has fatality rate of say 5-15% really does hit in this generation and we need to act fast to contain it. No one will believe the warnings.

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The consequences of the media and government lying to us will be severe in that case. This is why our institutions should work to earn our trust, but they don’t even care anymore. We are continuously lied to and manipulated.

I only have inside information on two of these, but they are so incorrect technically that he's lost all credibility. I'll caveat by saying I haven't listened to the podcast yet, but I will...

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Elon Musk and other astrophysicist say that current missions to the moon would require 8 starship launches to fuel up a single moon trip.

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What does this have to do with anything? I mean really, I've told some of you Musk humpers that Starship is not optimized for a moon mission, it's optimized for Low Earth orbit Starlink launches. Second, 8 launches???!!!! The official number is 16, and there are several credible analyses that show it can creep over 20. I'll be honest, one thing I didn't anticipate with Musk's epic Starship failures is that it would retroactively create more moon landing deniers.

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The van allen belt with the extensive radiation that would make it impossible with 1960’s technology for anyone to survive through it, much less live into their 80’s.

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This is actually a decent question, but with very modest googling he'd have been able to debunk himself. First, one of the main things that makes modern electronics susceptible to radiation are their small size and density. We didn't have that problem in the Apollo days as integrated circuits were still years away from widespread use, although the main guidance computer on Apollo did use early ICs that were not very dense, therefore not as susceptible to radiation as modern chips. The other thing is that radiation events happen in cycles (they last about 11 years), and the Van Allen belts are not a constant amount of radiation from earth to the moon. We've looked at Apollo's trajectories compared to solar cycles, and compared to worst case Van Allen belt radiation, and discovered that while the Apollo folks knew that this radiation existed, they got pretty lucky in when they launched (solar cycle minimums for the most part) and their critical ops (engine burns, dockings, EVAs) tended to dodge the worst case areas of the Van Allen belts. We think this was mostly by chance as some of these environmental aspects wouldn't be discovered for another 20 years. And as for human exposure, the shielding of the spacecraft was enough to give decent protection given that they launched in a solar minimum. Today, for example, we can measure radiation events with GOES satellites, and will scrub launches if there is a solar flare etc. that causes excessive radiation. And as I said before our electronics are way more sensitive to radiation today than they were in the 50's and 60's.