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Interesting Article On Lack Of Black Medical Students
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:28 am
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:28 am
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The article essentially states that the lack of AA medical students starts with problems as early as third grade in the educational process.
The article essentially states that the lack of AA medical students starts with problems as early as third grade in the educational process.
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:31 am to DeltaDoc
Blacks don't have the necessaries to be Docs, silly.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:31 am to DeltaDoc
Turk was always the last one I'd want operating on me. Seemed like he messed something up every episode.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:34 am to DeltaDoc
Everything in any culture that has to do with the overall well being of said culture can be boiled down to exactly 3 things:
1) How much does that culture focus on family?
2) How much does that culture focus on education?
3) How much value does that culture put on hard work?
1) How much does that culture focus on family?
2) How much does that culture focus on education?
3) How much value does that culture put on hard work?
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:35 am to DeltaDoc
Going to medical school ruins your street cred
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:36 am to DeltaDoc
quote:
Ashley White-Stern was pouring over a gastroenterology textbook one night when she came across a passage that made her bristle: "In the United States, H. pylori infection is associated with poverty, household crowding, limited education, African American or Mexican American ethnicity, residence in areas with poor sanitation, and birth outside the United States."
White-Stern, a medical student at Columbia University who is black, says that while she didn't think the passage was overtly racist, she did think it had the potential to imbue medical students with a subtle bias about blacks and Mexican Americans. So she decided to email the authors of the textbook.
"If we didn't live in a country or world where being of color predisposed society to look down on a person, the published sentence [would] not raise an eyebrow,
So statistically, this infection affects minorities more and she cried to the authors that it was racist.
Let me tell you what I think is racist. Here's a chart she didn't put in her article.
Med school acceptance shouldn't be based on your skin color. I don't give a shite what color you are, I want the best doctor to operate on me. They're literally going to get people killed because they want to push for diversity over performance.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:36 am to DeltaDoc
Until people in their environment start putting real emphasis on school and success instead of "getting their rap career on" this will continue to be the trend. I think they want instant gratification in a world where hard word and tenacity is where real success comes from.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:37 am to ShoeBang
I tend to agree. My personal feelings are that if your parents don't push you to be better, it is almost impossible to will yourself to be better.
When over 80% of AA children are born out of wedlock and grow up in single parent homes the majority of the time, it is hard for that single parent to push the child alone.
The larger issue is why is the instance of single parent homes so high in the AA community. Is it cultural, governmental or predicated in racism? There are dozens of other potential reasons as well.
When over 80% of AA children are born out of wedlock and grow up in single parent homes the majority of the time, it is hard for that single parent to push the child alone.
The larger issue is why is the instance of single parent homes so high in the AA community. Is it cultural, governmental or predicated in racism? There are dozens of other potential reasons as well.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:39 am to DeltaDoc
quote:
tudents starts with problems as early as third grade in the educational process.
I think that I have posted this before, but the subconscious decision to drop out of school is made in 3rd grade. It is the make or break literacy grade. Without support in the home, children do not reach their literacy goals. Then, they start having discipline issues, because they cannot read the classroom material. They would rather act like they don't care and fail, than, try and fail. It really is sad. folks like me are trying to stem the tide, but many days I feel like I'm placing chewing gum into a hole in the dam already full of holes.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 9:42 am
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:40 am to DeltaDoc
I bet a larger black % of applicants are selected than any other race, though. Because they have to fill their "quota" of diversity.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 9:41 am
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:41 am to DeltaDoc
Based solely on race, whites are under represented as well.. Asians are contuining to outpace all others.. I assume if we broke down the white demographic into general ethnic classes we'd find a high volume of Jewish heritage.. The ultimate Question is whether race and ethnic heritage plays a significant role in determining ones ability to perform certain tasks or is it ones financial class at birth. In today's culture, the mere question would bring indignation from to many circles to allow a rational discussion.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:42 am to DeltaDoc
Better lower the standards then before some based SJW gets offended by this
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:44 am to ShoeBang
quote:
1) How much does that culture focus on family?
2) How much does that culture focus on education?
3) How much value does that culture put on hard work?
Yet somehow I am told it's because I'm privileged
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:44 am to CoachChappy
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i think that I have posted this before, but the subconscious decision to drop out of school is made in 3rd grade. it is the make or break literacy grade
It is said. My parents pushed me and made we see the benefits of hard work. I do the same with my children. To that end, unless you have a learning disability, I see no reason why a child of even average intelligence cannot be an all A or A/B student all of the way through high school.
To that end, I wish that the US would revamp the medical school process and allow bright kids to essentially start medical school out of high school.
Give them 3 years (as opposed to 2) of classroom work, then two of clinical, then residency, fellowship, etc.
At the very least, you have medical specific training and you are "in the world" three years sooner as a practicing physician.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:46 am to DeltaDoc
quote:
Give them 3 years (as opposed to 2) of classroom work, then two of clinical, then residency, fellowship, etc.
At the very least, you have medical specific training and you are "in the world" three years sooner as a practicing physician.
You mean the way it used to be?
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:46 am to Broke
quote:
Until people in their environment start putting real emphasis on school and success instead of "getting their rap career on" this will continue to be the trend. I think they want instant gratification in a world where hard word and tenacity is where real success comes from.
eh you don't have to be so direct with your cultural assertions
this passage from the article
quote:
My humble belief is that we owe it to people of color to consider how and when we include their identities in lists of 'undesirable' characteristics.
says it all
if you cannot talk about pathologies of various lower class cultures then you will never have any sort of legitimate change in those cultures. this whole debate is simply one of perception and cause/effect. do groups of behaviors lead to a lower class mentality/life or has society been built to exclude these people? the assumption is that if these barriers didn't exist people of those behavioral groups would perform as well as other groups?
keep the terms/concepts on that level and you will have more fruitful discussions
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:46 am to TROLA
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Question is whether race and ethnic heritage plays a significant role in determining ones ability to perform certain tasks or is it ones financial class at birth.
Financial class at birth is nothing more than an excuse, sure you might have to work harder to get there, but by no means is that stopping you. If you have the drive and desire to accomplish something you'll get there.
Concerning the minorities they actually have more of a change to get into med school and get scholarships than whites coming from poor or lower middle class families.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:47 am to Ingeniero
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That graph is both terrifying and sad at the same time. Course nowadays we're told that facts like what that graph show are "racist".
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:47 am to DeltaDoc
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in the educational process.
IMO it has less to do with the education process and more to do with the environment. How many young black children grow up aspiring to be doctors? Probably half as many that want to be professional athletes or rappers. Being a doctor just isn't heavily emphasized in many black communities.
And that's not to disparage the situation, I'm not talking crap, it's just the way life is.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 9:49 am
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