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IL couple still haven't gotten truck and money stolen by cops back in 2012
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:04 am
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:04 am
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Illinois State Police seized the money, along with Adam and Jennifer Perry's Toyota Tundra, after the Ashburnham, Mass., couple was stopped for speeding on Interstate 80 in Henry County Oct. 25, 2012.
Although no drugs were found in the vehicle, authorities used civil forfeiture laws to confiscate the couple's property without filing charges, under the assumption the money and vehicle were tied to illegal activity.
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This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 8:06 am
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Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:09 am to TJGator1215
I'm not on either side of the "cops are worthless POS vs cops are heroes" argument. But I'll say that all the shitty cops are destroying the people's trust in all cops. They need to be more willing to crack down on their own. Their bunker mentality is only hurting them.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:10 am to TJGator1215
That shite is crazy. To allow cops to seize anyone's cash or properties without any hard, physical evidence is so unconstitutional.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:11 am to TJGator1215
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Illinois agencies received more than $186 million in federal forfeiture funds between 2000 and 2013 from the U.S. Department of Justice, according to the Institute for Justice’s report, Policing for Profit.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:14 am to whit
Many counties depend on civil forfeiture as a revenue stream. That's some shite you would expect in a 3rd world country.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:16 am to TJGator1215
"Open investigation"
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:17 am to Pecker
It is rather strange to travel with that amount of cash though. I would have got it in a cashiers check.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:22 am to TJGator1215
frick 12
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:25 am to MontyFranklyn
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It is rather strange to travel with that amount of cash though. I would have got it in a cashiers check.
You may think it's strange but it's not unlawful. You never know people's circumstances, and why they may have a lot of cash on them.
It's become common practice during traffic stops to ask motorists if they are traveling with large amounts of cash. If they answer "yes," they can have that money seized with no cause other than their possessing the cash. Good luck getting that back. In the most basic sense, that practice is criminal.
Relevant link: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Civil Forfeiture
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 8:34 am
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:27 am to TJGator1215
I need to get my dad on here to tell his story about being robbed by police in Florida. It's on of the craziest stories I've ever heard.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:32 am to Barf
Well tell it barf
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:34 am to Pecker
quote:And in knowing that I would get the money in a form that won't be seized. If they do take the check I can always cancel it and get another one.
You may think it's strange but it's not unlawful. You never know people's circumstances, and why they may have a lot of cash on them.
It's become common practice during traffic stops to ask motorists if they are traveling with large amounts of cash. If they answer "yes," they can have that money seized with no cause other than their possessing the cash. Good luck getting that back. In the most basic sense, that practice is criminal.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:39 am to MontyFranklyn
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And in knowing that I would get the money in a form that won't be seized. If they do take the check I can always cancel it and get another one.
Of course. The corrective action for motorists is obvious. I'm not sure why that would even need to be pointed out.
The fact that we now have to hide our money from the police is the issue. That's the basis for this discussion.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:41 am to MontyFranklyn
That story and the linked article appear to be very fishy. If this were accurate why would they not sue the city in civil court? I would have to imagine the city would be crushed in a lawsuit. The writer is also careful to write that the complainants "say" before writing what they said while providing no evidence that this took place as described by the "sayers."
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:42 am to TJGator1215
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A Massachusetts couple say $107,520 seized from their vehicle
Thanks for not posting the amount DA.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:47 am to Pecker
quote:I guess that I'm different. I know there is nothing I can do to make them yield their power, so I plan around it. I always try to hedge and go for the outcome that doesn't cost me the most.
Of course. The corrective action for motorists is obvious. I'm not sure why that would even need to be pointed out.
The fact that we now have to hide our money from the police is the issue. That's the basis for this discussion.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:47 am to Pecker
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I'm not on either side of the "cops are worthless POS vs cops are heroes" argument. But I'll say that all the shitty cops are destroying the people's trust in all cops. They need to be more willing to crack down on their own. Their bunker mentality is only hurting them.
And not a frick was given by the boys in blue. You'd better count your blessings that they don't bust in your door and smoke you for even writing that. Obey.
Seriously though. Follow the law and stop abusing authority and people will respect the police again. Stop protecting and defending bad cops.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:51 am to MontyFranklyn
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I guess that I'm different. I know there is nothing I can do to make them yield their power, so I plan around it. I always try to hedge and go for the outcome that doesn't cost me the most.
No, you're not different; that's what the majority of people do. Again, that's not the discussion.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:03 am to Pecker
There has to be accountability on both sides. It is very unconstitutional for this type of seizure to take place like I said earlier, but there are huge risks traveling with large amounts of cash outside of police seizures.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 9:23 am to MontyFranklyn
Well yeah there are risks but one of them shouldn't be having your money stolen by authorities. There aren't any laws that say you have to use a bank for your money.
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